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    22 days ago

    Sleeping in a car that you own.

    I think there should be restrictions on where to park for this, but in general people found sleeping in cars should be protected by the law against theft and harassment.

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      22 days ago

      Restrictions on where you can park

      Nah fuck that noise. This is how you let them corral you into slums.

      Park where you want. Out front of parliament, the prime minister’s house, on the street out front a billionaires house, wherever. If they don’t like it, them they should fix it.

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        22 days ago

        Well, I mean, someone’s evil ex shouldn’t park in front of their house. And people should not park for a nap in a handicap spot. And not in the driving portion of a road, not in the breakdown lane of a major highway, not on anyone’s lawn.

        But yeah, basically any place where parking is allowed, sleeping while parked should be allowed and protected.

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      22 days ago

      I think you have the right to do this. No one’s gonna charge your if you’re dead…

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        22 days ago

        Being illegal means you can’t have humane and stressless suicide devices available to market. Instead one has to rely on tools which are uncertain, or cause you too much stress at the end of your life. And at the same time you have to dodge the state, so you can’t just announce it and spend your last hours with your loved ones.

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        22 days ago

        Many places make it illegal to allow police to intercede. In most places, the police can intervene if they believe a crime is about to be committed.

        There is a huge line between someone who is terminally ill, and wants to die on their own terms, and someone having a mental health crisis. The first should be legal, but still needs support and checking, the 2nd need immediate help.

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          And what happens when your mental health crisis has lasted for several years, decades even? It is possible to not be terminally ill or old and still rationally decide you want to die due to chronic illness or other issues, even if your issue is purely mental illness. You should be able to die with dignity, peacefully - not after forking over a pretty sum over sketchy websites hoping to get the right peaceful pill that every government has banned or a poison + medication combo so that you’ll die puking your guts out but hopefully you won’t puke the poison out and successfully die.

          There is no help for so many people wanting to die, they’ve exhausted their options. Some are so desperate they buy what they think is a peaceful pill but is instead rat poison. Mental hospitals do not help these type of people, if these places help at all.

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            22 days ago

            There is no help for so many people wanting to die, they’ve exhausted their options

            They feel like there is no help, no options, no possibilities. They feel like they’ve exhausted their options.

            To state absolutely there is no help to be had in any possible situation is just plain wrong. It does feel like that, yes, and that’s the horrible bit. Because the brain absolutely can’t not come up with anything and every option you have agency over you feel like you’ve exhausted. But also, it is a slight exaggeration to say with absolute certainty there is no help.

            And I am speaking from experience.

            But no, it’s not discounted that assisted suicide for mental illness should be completely off the table. However because of the nature of mental illness, there should definitely be checks and balances for it, otherwise half the population would kill themselves over their first heartbreak.

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              22 days ago

              I’ve read their stories and have my own, there is no help. Therapy, medication, mental ward visits, physical therapy, etc. don’t help. Some issues are definitely caused by society, but it is not realistically possible to change society radically enough and soon enough to help. They feel there is no help because there is indeed no help, I also hold this view for myself.

              I am not talking about someone going through a breakup reacting on impulse, I mean people who have been mentally ill for years. People with chronic conditions. People who are in pain.

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                I am not talking about someone going through a breakup reacting on impulse, I mean people who have been mentally ill for years. People with chronic conditions. People who are in pain.

                And very politely assumed I’m not one of those people, not presumptuous at all.

                I’ve been tossed out of an ER after I told the psychiatrist I was afraid I might hurt myself or others. Literally, verbatim (albeit in Finnish.) He said, “don’t try to make that my responsibility”. Like, fuck, that’s literally in his job description. He got a guard to escort me out. I rang a crisis holine. They hang up on me, saying I didn’t have a crisis. All this after I had waited in an empty room without food for 7 hours, waiting for that pick of a psychiatrist on call to laze back to work. And they didn’t even tell me “he won’t be in for hours”, when they knew perfectly well.

                Then another time I was denied my prescription medication while in police custody. I was kept in a cell for three days without them telling me what’s going on, how long, why, and even fucking cutting off my water at one point. A literal crime against humanity. Ate my finger open and wrote >300 words in my own blood on the walls. I got a picture of the cell somewhere. They accused me of vandalising the cell. I tried getting the video material from my time in the cell to prove their gross negligence. They “lost it”.

                My family doesn’t even contact me. Haven’t worked in several years. Had to move from school to school as a kid because of my mom, never had time to form long term relationships even though I make friends rather easily.

                A few years ago, I would’ve definitely agreed with you. I’m a stubborn person, and it FELT like I had exhausted all my options and no-one was willing to help. That’s an exaggeration of course, as is your absolute. And true, the doctors didn’t help shit, family and friends nonexistent, the one friend who I had who could’ve helped lost a daughter, so can’t really blame him for not being able to help others.

                I was genuinely considering suicide everyday, and had there been an easy way to do it, I probably would’ve. If not for nothing else, then to make every single fuck of those “not my problem” fucks feel at least a little guilty for not doing more. Like my mom. I would’ve loved to see her face when she heard I killed myself. Might sound uncaring, because you don’t understand how uncaring my mother is, and that lack of care is what I’ve been talking to her about and she just represses and outright ignores it. So having screamed about suicidal ideation to her probably would’ve made her feel at least a little bit guilty for not simply calling me to prevent me from killing myself.

                But I don’t feel like that now. Because I’m a stubborn as fuck person and didn’t kill myself out of spite, because I wouldn’t get to see what happens. So after years of being convinced my illness has a physical basis, I found one. A rather small thing, non-celiac gluten sensitivity.

                But it’s not well understood, and has weird connections to behaviour.

                All I know is while I used to laugh at all the “gluten free is a fad” jokes, I now don’t find them funny after understanding just how much influence a simple fucking protein in my diet can have on the functioning of my nervous system. That being the system that houses this consciousness that’s writing to you and not wishing that badly to kill themselves amymore.

                Like did I get help from the systems and people who were supposed to care and help? No. Did they actively act against my best interests by ignoring my pleas for help? Yes they did. Did that make me want to kill myself even more? Yes, it did.

                But did it mean there was no help to be had, anywhere, as an absolute? Seeing how I now feel less like killing myself, seems it doesn’t follow that no help was available. I just had to find it myself, on accident, after literally several decades of complaining about that issue.

                I also chose a therapist who’s not Finnish on purpose, so they understand how the entire culture is affecting me, and I feel validated by them. So while it hasn’t been a huge help, it’s definitely a help going there weekly.

                But perhaps I still don’t belong to those “people in pain” who you speak about who FEEL like there is no help.

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        22 days ago

        I remember a story, of which I don’t know if it is true or not. But basically a man in Japan was sentenced to death for suicide, after a failed attempt.

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      Gonna have to disagree with you for two reasons:

      • it’s not actually illegal (except in Australia soon I guess)
      • when everyone’s a user, the social aspect makes it practically impossible for single households to impose limits without making their child a pariah
  • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
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    22 days ago

    Weed (not legal in all states)

    Most hallucinogens (at least for medical or supervised use)

    Being trans (lotta states trying to ban me)

    Being gay (they’re probably next)

    Abortion (many states ban this now)

    Free healthcare (not technically illegal, per se)

    Being homeless

    Polyamory (not technically illegal afaik, but there are a lot of legal benefits that married couples get which aren’t extended to polyamorous relationships due marriage being restricted to couples only)

    The list goes on because while there are many basic things that aren’t technically illegal, the system is set up in a way to fuck you because of the required profit motive behind offering basic necessities in a capitalist society.

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    22 days ago

    Prostitution. Keeping it illegal makes it so much worse for everyone involved except human traffickers.

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    22 days ago

    Dumpster diving. Doesn’t matter if it’s food or merchandise. It should be illegal to lock a dumpster or willfully destroy usable goods.

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      Locking dumpsters is important in some areas so wild life dosen’t get into them. To quote the National Parks service,

      “There is a significant overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest humans”.

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        Most businesses lock the dumpsters because trash service is expensive, and if you don’t lock them people will pull up with a pickup bed full of trash and fill them up.

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      22 days ago

      You’ve never had to repeatedly clean trash slurry off of a concrete slab because junkies are terrible people who have no manners. If people could be trusted to not redistribute the trash across the land I wouldn’t mind so much

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          Enforcing that would take a lot more money than a padlock.

          A better idea would be to charge businesses for the downstream costs of externalities like waste. Make them self-enforce by making it more expensive to dump recyclable or reusable materials.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 days ago

      “Oh you support Ukraine, you are a nazi!” punch

      (Who’s gonna determine who is a nazi? I mean, by this logic, we can legalize killing rapists. Then you can go around killing people whom you declare to be a rapist.)

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        22 days ago

        If you feel personally attacked by the idea of punching nazis, you’re probably a nazi.

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          If you feel personally attacked by the idea of executing a criminal, you are probably a criminal.

          Edit: In fact, everyone who oppose the death penalty are criminals. Therefore, we should execute everyone who opposes the death penalty.

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            See how you replaced punching with executing? That destroys the entire analogy.

            Besides, I don’t feel personally attacked by the idea of executing criminals, I’m opposed to it based on principle, and because it doesn’t even achieve its goals.

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              I don’t mind someone wearing a nazi armband or doing a nazi salute getting punched. I’d probably do nullification if I was on that jury.

              But making a law that says “You are legally allowed to punch nazis” is just disaster. That’s telling people its okay to assault someone that, in their view, is a nazi. Like some karen might perceive being kicked out of a store, as the store manager “being a nazi”.

              It should be up to the juries to nullify if they think the person getting punched is a nazi, not just do a blanket “okay” on “punching nazis”.

              Edit: A better solution is just make it a crime to wear nazi articles of clothing, or doing nazi gestures, or say pro-nazi speeches.

  • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.club
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    For now all I can think of are drugs (every single one, including opioids) and euthanasia (not just for terminal diseases, should be available for everyone who decides to).

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      22 days ago

      With limits

      Fentanyl, for example, should require doctors guidance at least, and forced medical help to get off of it when you’re displaying addiction behavior.

      Euthanasia should also be legal, but with strict rules. You want to avoid someone off themselves just because they’re having a bad day

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        People already choose to buy and use fentanyl without a doctors prescription, why should they be treated as criminals? If a junkie commits crimes because they are high, that should be criminal, and if a junkie commits crimes to get more drugs, that should be criminal, but I do not see a purpose in criminalizing fentanyl for consenting adults.

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          You prohibit Fentanyl because it’s so friggin addictive and lethal. Most drugs are rather harmless (as alcohol is “harmless”) so sure. Just keep an eye on people and where someone falls off the wagon, have them undergoing forced treatment to get them back okay again.

          Fentanyl is like meth, it’s too much, there is no such thing as a little bit or any good outcome

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            I remain unconvinced. fentanyl is already illegal, yet people die from it, so making it illegal is already ineffective. Instead of spending money on police, lets spend it on treatment.

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    For adults, literally everything that doesn’t directly hurt other living things.