• MagnumDovetails@lemmy.world
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    I think some people believe that this is a single event; like they get your email and that’s it. They don’t realize or care that it is a constant ongoing collection of any and all possible information that is held by a company whose motive is profit. These companies are associating ip addresses with devices and activities all the time. Turns out the older your data the less it is worth. Stop when you can- even if it’s a slow process. Privacy is a human right

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      I’m tired, boss.

      It’s a very alluring argument, to give up, to let them have it. But, not alluring enough.

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      Turns out the older your data the less it is worth

      That’s why I think is not the best approach to delete your accounts. Keep an old phone with all your accounts and every now and then watch a random video, make a random search, follow a random profile, and so on with all your accounts. Over time your true profile will become obsolete and buried under fake data.

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    For many people it’s easier to not care… they don’t want to bother with long term consequences of their behaviors.

    I simply ask them if they would be OK with a company taking money out their bank account.

    Your data is valuable. Why give it away for free?

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      I simply ask them if they would be OK with a company taking money out their bank account.

      This is as unconvincing an analogy as , and for the same reason.

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        Unconvincing to whom? That campaign did an amazing job of equating copyright to property ownership for an entire generation.

        It’s not accurate, but I think we’ve seen that it can be very convincing for most people.

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          I wouldn’t recommend trying to trick people into caring about their privacy: it’s not good for your reputation or your long-term relationship with them.

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          Which generation is that? I’ll be honest, I’ve yet to talk to someone who really gives a crap about where the content they’re consuming is coming from. Hell, most people I’ve dealt with don’t give a crap about content being pirated whenever it happens to be the more convenient option.

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      Focus on action. Delete X, Get Y, Change Z. They will ask why. Stop talking about privacy. Make them ask you.

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      Is this specific one valid anymore? I remember seeing in the last year or two that Google location history is now encrypted and it now no longer auto backs up the data, you can enable it though, so the data is now only on the device.

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      This. So much this. How can people not grasp this idea? Companies don’t care about something you bought 5 years ago. They are interested in your current data.

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    That’s why you never say data. They’ve heard it all before. Call them a cuck. They’re fucking your phone and you’re left to watch, anti-libre software.

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    It’s like this. Your front door is left open and while, magically, no one can touch or take anything in your house, strangers are allowed to enter at will and eyeball everything, see all your bills, your kids stuff, your laundry, dirty and clean, etc. How would that ever be ok? And yet we say this is ok electronically every day.

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    If it’s done and dusted because they already have your data then why are they constantly trying to get more?

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    And furthermore - the companies in question are true megacorps, ie evey bit of additional power/money they get (and for the matter of this pov: you give them) goes to absolutely the shorties practices and abuses ever.

    It’s a moral thing - I protect my data for the same reason I recycle or consider my (indirect*) carbon footprint.

    (*indirect bcs more like which companies or people I support)

    With your data you support misinformation, deregulation lobbying, (any) government shitty things, ad culture, anything to protect the stock market as-is or their stock falls, dogshit approach to keeping their respective monology over their market, … and their size and reach allows them to just be bigger than a lot of things like municipalities, even smol countries, the quid-pro-quo aint in the peoples favor.

    I simplified example (bcs someone else already made it happen) - imagine, if Google autonomous cars go on sale, suddenly railways projects disappear around you.

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    a good point. while I appreciate all the usual parables to explain the issue, to me it’s quite simple. namely, me and the evildoers have a fundamental disagreement on the concept of “whose shit is my shit?” the moment their actions indicate it’s theirs, I am in active resistance mode.