Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Trump’s HHS nominee, expressed belief in the “plandemic” conspiracy, suggesting the COVID pandemic was planned by the government.

He also compared COVID efforts to Nazi experiments and accused the government of using bioterrorism to implement social controls.

Kennedy’s statements raise concerns about his understanding of infectious diseases and his potential impact on pandemic response.

  • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    Crazy how the people who believe the government planned the pandemic are also on the side of the guy who ran the government at the time.

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      No, no, it was the Deep State government, not Trump. And that might be controlled by the Deep Deep State. It’s deep all the way down.

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    How the fuck did the US government plan to enslave its own citizens by releasing a novel virus in the middle of China?

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      There’s strong evidence it was in the USA well before the first cases were reported in China.

      That’s not to say that anything RFK says makes any damn sense. But it’s also not clear that it started in China.

      For people asking for evidence, check the statistics for respiratory-related illnesses and pneumonia in late 2019.

      https://nchsdata.cdc.gov/DQS/#nchs-home_by-primary-diagnosis/diseases-of-the-respiratory-system/age-group/all-time-periods/1

      There was an unexplained spike in respiratory illness across all age groups, and a spike in pneumonia deaths starting in September. Google also tracked a spike in searches related to pneumonia. We didn’t even have COVID tests until January of 2020, which is when the first diagnoses started coming in. None of the deaths in 2019 attributed to pneumonia were tested for COVID.

      That doesn’t mean it was definitely COVID, but it is enough to make me doubt the Trump narrative that China started it.

      You’ll also notice the incidence of scented candle complaints began in the latter quarter of 2019.

      https://www.reviewpartydotcom.com/blog/reviews-as-data-points-yankee-candle-covid-cases

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        The problem is that China absolutely lied, obfuscated data, and generally did whatever it took to make it look like their COVID response was better than reality.

        It is very, very, very likely that the COVID-19 virus originated in China, and it is also quite likely that Americans were infected with coronavirus before January 2020. Both of these things can be true without needing to resort to conspiracy.

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        There’s strong evidence it was in the USA well before the first cases were reported in China.

        In fact there is strong evidence against this conclusion. Here is a graph showing reported instances for China and the rest of the world (ROW) starting in January 2020:

        In which you can see that Global Cases match China Cases until the end of February 2020.

        And here is a graph showing cases in Hubei province, the rest of China, and the rest of the world starting in January 2020:

        And here is an animated map showing confirmed cased starting January 2020.

        source

        It is very, very clear that the COVID-19 pandemic started in China, specifically in Hubei province, and that anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

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          What you’ve got there is a graph of testing. The slopes are all the same, because that’s when each country received tests, and that’s how quickly they ramped up testing. Covid 19 wasn’t even sequenced until 40 people were extremely ill from the virus. We know now that it is spread through the air, and carriers of the virus can be contagious without being symptomatic. Zero countries were wasting precious tests on deceased people who died in the previous weeks.

          China made for a convenient target for xenophobes and racists to blame. It spread quickly through dense populations, and their government was using (ineffective) draconian methods to contain the spread. Westerners spread the image of indigent communists eating bats and civets, ignoring the growing number of anomalous respiratory illnesses at home.

          Maybe it started in China. Maybe it didn’t. We cannot know for sure, because we deliberately did not collect the data. And anyone trying to convince you differently has an agenda.

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        No, there isn’t. Anyone who was paying attention to news out of China saw that illnesses started being reported there in November 2019. By late December, it was obvious that something was going on.

        There has been zero evidence that the same was true in the States.

        Don’t spread misinformation.

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          Trust me, bro, my sino-ruskie special sources beamed them directly to the remaining parts of my brain.