• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    i assume by disable they probably mean, something along the lines of irreversibly contaminating the whole of the assembly line.

    I’d be curious to know how specifically they’re going about this.

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        1 month ago

        i mostly asked because other people would almost certainly have better ideas.

        Besides, if whatever they’re doing wouldn’t stand up to “being public knowledge” it’s not a very sound plan lmao.

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            1 month ago

            no, you’re thinking about it wrong. The whole point of a doomsday machine is useless if it’s countered by simply being known about.

            China knowing how TSMC has their delete key working, shouldn’t make a fucking difference, on whether or not it works. If it does, it’s not a very good delete key, because china probably already knows how it works, as well as the US.

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              1 month ago

              You need to watch Dr. Strangelove or: how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb by Stanley Kubrik friend.

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      1 month ago

      What happened if… purely hypothetically… China develops competitive chip fabrication plants that exports at scales rivalrious to Taiwan.

      And then fear of an invasion provokes detonation of Taiwan’s own facilities.

      Wouldn’t this turn China into a domestically source monopoly of high end chips?

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        1 month ago

        It’s easier said than done. A few key pieces took decades to figure out and even now many can only be produced by one or two companies, like ASML.

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            1 month ago

            Marketing terms mean nothing. SMIC’s nodes are nowhere near the real transistor density of TSMC’s or even Intel’s.

            But what’s worse than that are the yields. I don’t believe we have public numbers on their newest node yet, but their self-reported yields on their “7nm” process as of late 2022 was a pathetic 10-15%. TSMC’s 7nm yield (and you should remember that TSMC’s 7nm is vastly superior to SMIC’s) was getting over 70% yield when it was in pre-production trialing.

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                  1 month ago

                  The Chinese firms are end running US sanctions with improved technologies and your response seems to be “But their chips aren’t as good so it doesn’t count”.

                  Nevermind the rapid pace of development or the fact that only TSMC and Samsung seems capable of matching it.

                  The idea that Chinese manufacturers need Taiwan is demonstrably false.

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                    1 month ago

                    No, I was dismissing your assertion that Chinese fab companies are at the same level, or ahead of, TSMC. The truth is they aren’t even close. This is something that even China themselves openly admit.

                    That’s a second time you’ve strawmanned me. I don’t appreciate words being put in my mouth.

                    Samsung? I’m sorry, are you keeping up with the industry at all? Samsung isn’t matching shit. They’re a node behind Intel and 2.5 behind TSMC. What development are they matching?

                    And yes, a multitude of Chinese manufacturers do need Taiwan. China in general does. Will that be true in the far future? Who knows. But it’s certainly true now and in the short term.

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      1 month ago

      Probably wipe the firmware of the machines so they can’t be used.

      (Fun fact: FIRMware is the in-between of HARDware and SOFTware.)