And how exactly did you get “I hate reading” from “I hate genocidal fucks like you”?
i’m mocking you for saying the same thing repeatedly, it’s fucking cringe bro. We get it, you cannot stomach the thought that sometimes people disagree with you.
Weirdly you keep avoiding actually mentioning any, just going on with vague “both sides” bullshit and “not enough evidence” patheticism.
ironically, i do answer it, you just keep ignoring it, for some reason, i’ve given a very clear answer.
Do you think Israelis are at an equal risk of being the victims of genocide as Palestinians are?
oh good, a good question, i actually really like this question.
To answer your question, if we’re talking from a military power standpoint, israelis have a significantly less risk of “being genocided” as opposed to “palestinians” though this is within the context of this war specifically. The reason why is because israel is a massive military state, (they own f35s btw, they’re basically a US proxy with how much military power they have) Palestine on the other hand, gets weapon shipments from iran, as per usual. I believe there are also a few other imports they have, but they’re the usual primary suspects, from my understanding though it’s primarily iran using it as an excuse to proxy war.
Looking at a state size and population metric, it’s hard to argue against the claim as well, there are simply more people in israel.
If we’re arguing outside the context of the war, from the perspective of the middle east? I don’t know, depends on how well relations between israel, and the rest of the middle east are i suppose. Palestine would be basically the rest of the middle east, aside from the fact that it borders israel (again, we’re ignoring everything else, this is a purely geographic/demographic based analysis)
Wow! Look at that, when you ask good questions, it’s almost like it’s possible to receive good answers!
ANSWER CLEARLY; since I’m clearly incapable of perceiving anything other. (Or you just equivocate because you know what is the right side of history but you don’t actually want to go against your brainwashing of DO NOT CRITICISE ISRAEL DO NOT CRITICISE ISRAEL.)
since you seem to think i cannot criticize israel at all, it is clearly impossible for me to do so. Even though i have said NOTHING about israel, i will now go on to criticize israel and their wartime efforts.
Let’s see, notably in the public eye, the civilian causalities have been rather high. But then again, russia has also lost 300,000 troops in combat, granted not civilian, they’re mostly conscripts and draft picks. (a significant portion of which have been ethnic minorities living in russia, so if we’re talking about genocide, arguably russia has been technically been doing a genocide, just very quietly) Perhaps that should make you sick to your stomach as well. Ukraine has also suffered losses, but they have also evacuated millions of people, to my knowledge. So most of which would’ve been people who didn’t evacuate (likely by choice) or soldiers.
The public eye is rather boring though, so let’s go a little bit deeper, israels control over gaza over the last period of however long it’s been going on for is rather concerning. There’s very little freedom living in gaza, but then again, hamas did decide to war against israel, so how much of that is really “israel bad” and how much of that is “hamas bad” is a question left up to interpretation i suppose. These kinds of thing when in war are so inconsequential it’s not even worth considering though.
Israel absolutely has all kinds of propaganda, i’m not versed on what is confirmed propaganda, but i’ve heard a lot of stuff is, and a lot of stuff isn’t though i’m almost certain that some of it is.
Public PR wise, netanyahu is terrible. Unless you’re jewish probably. He seems like a goofy guy, seems to be stuck in an awkward spot where most of his government isn’t supporting him, except for the far right, so he seems to be leaning on them in order to stay in power. The public in israel doesn’t seem to be happy with what he’s doing.
Long term, israel doesn’t seem to have a plan, they seem to either war constantly, or not. They don’t seem to have any sort of long term solution at all. Which is obviously, not helpful at all. They really seem content to just, keep warring. When they do stop warring, they seem to cause problems. Often times shit happens that really shouldn’t (arguably hamas is one)
You didn’t read it, got it. You skimmed and concluded “there’s no sentence” and thought that’s it. That’s exactly my point about the way you “argue.”
nah i just don’t remember what i typed because it’s been like three fucking days and i’m not scrolling up to make a coherent point about some shit i’m clearly philosophically babbling about.
No, it isn’t, unless you’re pushing Israeli propaganda.
yes it is? It’s literally war? Go find ANY open source intelligence community working on military stuff, anywhere, and please tell me how confident they are in what they find, and what they predict. You’ll find that they aren’t confident at all, and in fact just propose ideas. It’s really quite boring, but i find it rather interesting.
Again. Literally the vast fucking majority of the world agree it’s a genocide.
again, i think this is a slight mischaracterization. This is a list of countries around the world who support south africas legal inquiry to whether or not this is considered to be genocide. Meaning that they would like for a just answer to the question at hand.
“The president expressed his support for South Africa’s initiative to call on the International Court of Justice to order Israel to immediately cease all acts and measures that may constitute genocide”
Hey look at that! it’s a quote directly from the segment you quote from on wikipedia! It says EXACTLY what i said it would probably say, isn’t that weird? It’s almost like i know some things.
it’s much simpler to show that the legal definition of a genocide (which you tried looking up on fucking wikipedia :DDD
woah, look at that, an actual legal definition, you could’ve just linked that in the first post, or comment, i don’t remember how this thread started anymore and we wouldn’t be here!
Regardless i still have some issue with the definition as stated, because it has no (at least none that i can find) stipulations for anything regarding an actual war, because it turns out, most wars would arguably be defined as genocide under that definition. The USSR against Afhgan war? Genocide. WW1? Genocide. Numerous genocides infact! Japanese sino war? Also probably genocide! Japanese russo war? Also probably genocide! The mexican american war? Also, still probably genocide.
anyway, enough contextual meandering, that’s not the point, i’m just making a point here.
Yeah, because you’re **PURPOSEFULLY IGNORING ALL THE INTERNATIONAL LAW EXPERTS AND GLOBAL HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS LOUDLY CRYING GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE GENOCIDE."
little fun fact for you, human rights orgs are primarily opposed to this, because it’s a fucking war. Nobody likes war. Also just because someone is an expert doesn’t mean you should listen to them, and or fully believe them. here’s a little tidbit of information for you. Most of these experts particularly the law experts, are probably rather infamiliar with local cultural customs and differences between the east and the west, which is almost certainly an influencing factor for this war. A lot of them are likely getting lots of air time. (which also means money) and the media loves money! We know this.
Also, they’re loudly crying genocide. Nobody wants to fucking listen to anybody doing that. It’s literally the boy who cried wolf. If it’s actually a genocide, the currently ongoing court case slated to determine this question, will fucking tell us. As for now, how do we talk about this? Simple, don’t call it a genocide, because we don’t fucking know. You wanna talk about war crimes? That’s great, i’ll listen, there’s something actually tangible there. You wanna talk about human rights? That’s another big thing, that’s a tangible thing.
Stating that this is genocide is like me stating that the world is going to end october 22 2042. It doesn’t matter to you whether i’m factually right about it, maybe i’m fucking god for all you know. There’s nothing of tangible substance there. You can’t do anything with that. Therefore, you don’t care.
Here’s the Israeli Defence Minister directly announcing that they are fighting “HUMAN ANIMALS”. (Perhaps google the word “dehumanisation”.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPdR3E4hCk (edit forgot to add this link)
hey look, a good argument against israel, sure is weird how when you bring up tangible things, stuff starts to become a lot more reasonable doesn’t it?
You’re like a Flat Earther insisting he’s using objective science. You’re like a scientologists, denouncing psychiatry. You’re like a transphobe screaming “there are only two genders.” ALL the fucking experts disagree with you, but you’re not man enough to admit when you’re wrong, or even man enough to understand you should stop shaming yourself online.
i could say the exact same thing to you, and it would be equally as valid. This is a bad argument. I won’t entertain it.
“NO WAY OF KNOWING :///////”"
you link things that do not claim there is an active genocide (in the headline at least) and the one that does, is lying.
Ah, there’s nothing I can do to fix a sick puppy like you
i appreciate that you picked up the furry lore. :)
You will never admit Israel is raping and pillaging Palestinians
they might be, idk, russia might have been doing the same thing in ukraine, wars fucked bro. You see that video from wagner of the POW being sledehammered?
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continuation of last comment :)
i enjoy reading also, it’s often just technical material or something sociological in nature. I should say the same thing about you, you’ve done nothing but reiterate the same points for the first five or however many comments you made, i simply responded in kind, you’ll notice i responded to actually engaging questions in this one!
my brother in christ you do nothing more than post links to shit other people have said and reiterate what they say while being mad, you are literally the equivalent of a piece of silicon processing USB signals.
brother, the evidence you are posting is people going “yeah we think this might be genocide, and we would like for it not happen please” Like i’m sorry but if this were documentation about a nuclear reactor i’d be reading a hand manual for a fucking blender right now.
yeah, it’s a court, of course they do, why do you think i’m waiting until the finalize their statement on this situation? Lmao.
hmm let’s see, and if i were david mcbride, rotting in australia prison right now, for “committing warcrimes” when i merely exposed actual war crimes, and how they were covered up, by charging people who DIDN’T COMMIT THOSE WARCRIMES. How would i feel about the situation? Idk probably devasted, but like, i think this is probably the least of our concerns. Julian assange was only recently freed, and he didn’t even do shit.
Also, legally speaking, it’s undecided until the verdict, unless pleas deal technically, but the same standard applies so whatever.
The phrase “innocent until proven guilty” is more about how we should treat people going through the court, you know, salem witch trial type shit.
damn, you really hung yourself out to dry on this one huh. Unfortunately i just so happened to respond with actual responses this time. RIP.
the shit you’re posting is bad homie. It’s not good evidence. It’s the metaphorical equivalent of me scrawling on a napkin that there is 12 million dollars in cash in a forest somewhere in ohio, at these coordinates, and then handing it to you.
this ones clever, i like this one.