All drugs should be legal and regulated.
holy shit I can’t believe I’m agreeing with a .ml user about something
That guy gave him wheelbarrows full of cash though. Rich and poor have different rules, duh.
And yet no more than 2% of the drug problem is entering through Canada illegally, apparently. The bulk is smuggled in by regular citizens via regular channels. Funny that.
My source is Leejah Miller.
…pardoned…Ross Ulbricht…
Good. He should have been free the whole time.
https://reason.com/2018/07/25/ross-ulbrichts-murder-for-hire-charges-d/
A broken clock is right twice a day.
Facts.
The giy who got caught trying to hire a hitman?
No. The guy who was never convicted of that charge, which was dropped, and those agents were convicted of massive corruption. That guy.
https://reason.com/2018/07/25/ross-ulbrichts-murder-for-hire-charges-d/
I’m not reading anything from Reason, or any ither Libertarian rag
Your choice, I won’t force you to read it, keep spreading misinformation all you want. It’s there for any who actually want to learn about his case and find out those charges were dropped and the agents convicted themselves.
I love that the left loves the war on drugs just to own the conservatives. The two are more alike than they think.
Before pardon: Free Ross
Wrong president does it: Wait akshully the corrupt cops that were convicted were right even though he was acquitted of those charges for lack of evidence!
Fucking mind boggling. Like fuck me I don’t like the annoying orange either but this was the right move, he never should have been in jail (at all, end the drug war, but…) especially not “for life” for the crime of running a website.
And free fucking Snowden while we’re here, goddamn.
First time hearing that I like the war on drugs that I’ve so violently despised my entire life to fulfill a petty political agenda.
I’m glad we have you here to correctly interpret what we think and believe! I bet you have many more similar gold nuggets that you can pull out of your colon.
For the whole drug exchange platform fair enough it might have beeneoverkill. But we are still talking about a guy who was up for killing people on his way. Not sure they are the best for society
Fun facts!
85% of people arrested with fentanyl at the border as U.S. citizens.
The vast majority of people arrested here for trafficking children are U.S. citizens (and children are over 3x more likely to be trafficked by an acquaintance or relative than they are a random kidnapper).
“Illegal aliens” commit less crime than natural born U.S. citizens.
Violent immigrants, perverted trans people, and incompetent DEI hires are all moral panics. You hear so much about them because the Republican party has nothing to offer that will make your life safer or easier.
They’ve made a business out of selling panic and fear to the masses. Betraying their own people for money. Never trust a conservative politician or business person.
Facts only matter to people who understand that facts are real and measurable things and not opinions and feelings.
Shut the border down to all Americans until they can control their criminals. They arent sending their best.
Did this stupid mother fucker really refer to the Prime Minister of Canada as “governor”? Can’t tell if pushing the 51st state bullshit or he’s just that fucking dumb!
I’m sure that’s been intentional.
He has been for a while now, which is actually a violation of the US’ nato obligations. But who care anymore, the US is no longer an ally.
Edit: it also violates a ton of border treaties, and half a doze international agreements the US has benefited from for a long time. But just with NATO:
Key points of the treaty
- The parties agree to settle disputes peacefully
- The parties agree to refrain from using force in a way that goes against the United Nations’ goals
- The parties agree to consider an attack on one of them as an attack on all of them
- The parties agree to consult about threats and defense matters
- The parties agree to safeguard the freedom, common heritage, and civilization of their peoples
- The parties agree to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area
Threatening Canada violates all of these and then some.
He thinks speaking diminutively to people automatically puts him in a position of power over them
It’s an insecurity issue common with bullying
Trudeau should call him Mayor, or even better, “Convicted Rapist and Felon”.
He’s more subtle. He’s been calling him just “Donald”.
Thanks, I missed that.
Both, he honestly believes that he will take Canada and Trudeau will be demoted to a governor somehow.
Canada at least has a “Governor-General” who is appointed by the British monarch.
Edit: like several other commonwealth states, Canada is a completely separate country from the United Kingdom. It just happens, by law, that King Charles III is the king of all of them.
That’s not what “completely separate” means…
When talking about what Charles III is doing in relation to Canada in his position a king, we’re supposed to refer to him as the monarch of Canada, we just don’t tend to do it because he doesn’t live here full time.
Rule by the man with the thickest fingers is no basis for a system of governance!
Carpet bomb them with inaccuracies and they’ll spend too much time correcting you to keep up.
And Trudeau called him “a special American, […] Donald” :D
Didn’t he also pay to have someone assassinated?
Evidence was tainted/fabricated by a crooked cop and Ulbricht was never convicted of it.
Well, that’s not quite what happened. There is evidence he ordered the hit and paid for it. The tainted cop tricked Ulbricht into thinking that the killing took place.
Source:
Page 19 under heading “2. Murders Commissioned by Dread Pirate Roberts”But then again
https://reason.com/2018/07/25/ross-ulbrichts-murder-for-hire-charges-d/
Innocent until proven guilty.
Innocent until proven guilty.
By that logic, trump is “innocent” of treason.
Just because it hasn’t been proven yet, doesn’t mean the accused didn’t do it. We are not judges, we don’t have to be impartial.
Well due to double jeopardy he can’t be tried again for the crime he’s already been acquitted for due to lack of evidence and police corruption, but you’re free to lick any boot you wish, and judge people based on all the untrue lies directly from the police you want to, it’s understandable!
I’m assuming you also believe police like Derek Chauvin then, since he was also convicted and convicted corrupt cops are somehow trustworthy to you? No? Well by all means believe these corrupt cops and not those corrupt cops, corrupt cops can be right twice a day or whatever, even when they’re stealing millions of dollars of bitcoin from the guy they’re fabricating evidence against, that doesn’t mean that the fabricated evidence is fabricated!
Why is there no “jerk off with eye roll” emoji? The world needs it.
Well due to double jeopardy he can’t be tried again for the crime
Jan 6 insurrectionists got pardoned. Do you think they are “innocent”?
Fucking no, they are still traitors.
free to lick any boot you wish
So… like bootlicking your daddy trump and his illegitimate pardons?
I’m assuming you also believe police like Derek Chauvin then, since he was also convicted and convicted corrupt cops are somehow trustworthy to you?
???
Dude mudered an innocent black man on camera? What are you talking about?
No no, you misunderstand the circumstances. He wasn’t pardoned for the “murder for hire” charges, those got dropped. Years ago actually, quietly, after they were used to unfairly influence the case he was convicted in which the charges were “engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit money laundering, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to commit computer hacking.” For those charges he was convicted on all counts and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, but after that case ended the other case with the murder for hire charges was dropped for lack of evidence and police corruption in the case (and the cops themselves were actually convicted.) He can’t have been pardoned for a crime which he was never convicted in the first place. (Though now that I’m saying it I’m not sure if double jeopardy applies, because afaik there’s two types of “dropped” case and one can be reopened and one cannot, but still he wasn’t convicted).
The Jan 6th guys however were convicted of their charges, just as Ross was convicted of “engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit money laundering, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to commit computer hacking” and so basically “no they were convicted, Ross wasn’t but was overcharged for other crimes which he was convicted for.”
Look at it this way, if I’m a cop, and I just know you committed a murder, I’m damn sure of it, but I have no real evidence except for some stuff I fabricated, and then you get arrested for selling weed, I don’t think it should be legal for me to put you away for life for the charge of selling weed “because I toootally know you did that murder I don’t have evidence for.” Basically that’s what happened to Ross boiled down.
You may think someone deserves to die in prison for “engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit money laundering, conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents, and conspiracy to commit computer hacking,” but I don’t, call me a progressive idk.
No no more like the boot licking you’re doing to the corrupt cops that were actually convicted for being corrupt. Wild choice but it’s yours to make. Meanwhile I’m “bootlicking” for that super dangerous…checks notes…webdev. Real scary guy that one.
I’m talking about your defense of convicted corrupt cops. Camera or not they were sent to prison and yet here you are parroting their lies, why?
“Innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t exonerate a person from personal judgement based on facts simply because they have not been convicted in a court of law.
Edit -
Also, just because a case has been dropped doesn’t mean they weren’t guilty. Based on evidence, it’s more than reasonable to state he attempted to have someone assassinated.
You’re also going to need to provide more supporting information than a single article that’s a clear opinion piece written by a business that is biased towards supporting Ulbricht. You also share this bias being an apparent libertarian yourself, which could imply you cherry-picked this article.
Not that I can’t change my mind, but that one link ain’t gonna do it.
Yes yes “even though there was no evidence and those cops were convicted of corruption I’ve decided to believe them because I like police when they go after those bad bad webdevs.”
Whatever my dude. I’ve provided an article that cites sources and you’ve provided “nuh uh” as a rebuttal. I do not care about you and never will, be as dumb as you want it’s a free country.
There is evidence, though. I provided a reputable source that states such. So, you’re just misrepresenting my point.
The government also presented evidence that DPR commissioned the murders of five people to protect Silk Road’s anonymity
Yes, the allegations of a drug dealer who was himself caught are very reliable indeed, even though the case was dismissed due to lack of evidence and the agents charged with corruption involved with the case, we should believe the corrupt cops and cornered rat over the other guy and he should rot in prison forever for the thing that was dismissed due to lack of evidence and corruption, JUSTICE!
Btw, while this source backs your claim (that I never disputed) that he was accused of these crimes, you’re gonna hate this part:
The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.
Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah when I said it (among other places.) Interestingly enough the whole “proven guilty” part is the bit that never happened.
The guy is an idiot that saw dollars and let his brain shut down. No wonder Trump looks up to him.
It’s always been nothing but smoke and mirrors with Trump
The thing he cares about is making you think he cares
The grift is always his focus
Does trump know that it’s HIS border agency that catches stuff going in?
Still can’t make sense of that one outside massive corruption
Trump: *word-farts some demented rapist bullshit as per usual*
Corporate News: Well actually it turns out his actions point to this being a false claim . . .
People for whom this is somehow still news: We told you so!
Me:
Worse; you could buy people from the silk road. Wives, children,
nanny’sslaves… Along with military equipment, drugs ofc, stolen goods, and pretty much anything illegal that has a buyer.Had a friend that liked buying drugs there, and would send me screenshots of some of the insane ads he found. He was pissed when it got shut down, and moved to a market called ‘Agora’.
Broke off that friendship quite a while ago and haven’t heard about it since. Not really my scene…
Could we buy a president?
Already Sold. Next auction open in…
checks constitution
Nvm its probably the last auction.
False, no human trafficking, cp, or hitmen services were allowed and were promptly removed, except when Ross him self tried to buy one. Obviously people attempted to hide their sales, just like they do in the clearnet, but the site had a policy against many things.
I don’t think there was ever any solid proof Ross tried to do that.
Maybe they weren’t permitted/encouraged, and eventually got removed, but you could definitely find them there. I wish I’d saved images; but this was 15years ago.
Yeah and you can find them in the internet too, on telegram, instagram.
This isn’t true, there was no category for buying human beings. I don’t even think hitmen were allowed to offer their services.
Military equipment and stolen goods, absolutely. Hacked accounts, too. But any ad he found was either promptly removed or was never on The Silk Road to begin with.
Other non-drug markets did exist at the time but I never went on them so I can’t confirm if they were selling slaves.
I wish I’d have saved some of those images; I can assure you they did exist. I don’t think it was a prominent part of the site, with their main focus on illegal substances/goods, but it was definitely there.
Someone who definitely wasn’t me often browsed the whole site in awe at what was sold and never saw anything like that
I’m not saying he didn’t find them, but I am very confident it would have been against the ToS. The admins had a pretty hard line stance on it because it would take the site from “very illegal” to “extremely illegal”
He does like the word tremendous, also weak border policie with who? USA?!?
Fentanyl is so bad it is prohibied even on deep web illegal marketplaces. Do some research before spreading lies. A lot of stuff was not allowed on the silk road.
Where are the lies in the OP that I spread?
It’s technically the truth but it’s misleading. Silk road wasn’t that bad
Another member of the cool guy club guitar riff
