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  • Can you explain what you mean by your first statement? It seems like you’re arguing that citizens won’t be affected, then you linked a post by an Arab American citizen who is saying how general sentiment towards Arab Americans has affected their life. It stands to reason that electing trump will only further deteriorate the general sentiment towards Arab Americans, affecting us citizens.


  • If anyone needs additional confirmation of what trump wants.

    “As president, I would end once and for all the mass importation of antisemitism into the United States,” he said. “Just as I did before, we will keep radical Islamic terrorists the hell out of our country. We were keeping them out.”

    “On day one, we’ll restore our travel ban. We had a travel ban because we didn’t want people coming into our country who really loved the idea of blowing our country up,” he said. He called the ban an “amazing success.”

    “We didn’t have one incident in four years, because we kept bad people out of our country,” he claimed.

    “I’ll also be implementing strong ideological screenings for all immigrants coming in,” he said. “If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you sympathize with jihadists, then we don’t want you in our country and you’re not going to be getting into our country.”

    Trump also said he would cancel student visas of Hamas sympathizers.

    “The college campuses are being taken over, and all of the resident aliens who joined in the pro-jihadist protests this month, nobody’s seen anything like it,” he said. “Come 2025, we will find you, and we will deport you.”














  • Bruh it’s not an assumption (required for a loaded question) to say that reasoning about the future in the case of a democratic win is speculation just like reasoning about the future in the case of a Republican win is.

    That is 100% a fact. Once again, the guy you’re defending has arrived at the same conclusion:

    but the part about the DNC does indeed fall into the realm of speculation.

    The whole point of my comment is that speculation about the effects of a democratic win were initially portrayed as ironclad, while the speculation of the effects of a Republican win were downplayed due to being speculation. I’m not commenting on the message, I’m commenting on the delivery. You’re commenting on the message, not the delivery. Your comments are simply not relevant to mine.

    When the guy you’re “defending” and I are in agreement, what are you doing? Are you going to explain what they “really” meant with their comment?


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    You still haven’t answered my question.

    Are the results of a democratic victory as much speculation as the results of a Republican victory?

    The original comment was able to discuss the results of a democratic victory with laser precision, while it danced around the potential effects of a trump victory by calling it speculation. Again, see what I quoted.

    I’ve seen this disparity in foresight multiple times on Lemmy, and it’s frustrating when used to justify decision-making. It’s literally the sleeping Shaq meme.

    FWIW, OP and I are actually in agreement, both in that democratic victory outcomes are also speculation (and should’ve been worded as such) as well as the point being made.