• 1 Post
  • 20 Comments
Joined 1 year ago
cake
Cake day: June 12th, 2023

help-circle





  • Internet archive is apparently somewhat of with the pages, page 94 seems to be in a different chapter there.

    Scanning chapter 4 however, the only mention of collaboration with the Nazis is “[Hajj Amin al-Husayni]'s willingness to serve as a radio commentator for the Nazis and to help recruit Muslims in the Balkans to the German war effort no doubt stains his career. But he did not act any differently from the Zionist leaders in the 1930s, who themselves sought an alliance with the Nazis against the British Empire, or from all the other anticolonialist movements who wanted rid of the Empire by way of alliances with its principal enemies.” (page 65 on the archive)

    This seems like a rather unspecific source for “right wing Zionist used to work with the Nazis, some of them even after the war starts.” (not to mention that njm1314 somehow forgot to mention that at least Palestinian leader also wanted an alliance with the Nazis and actually worked for/with them).

    I’m starting to think that njm1314 is not as well known fact as they make it out to be…




  • Opposed?

    Yes, opposed: “These appeals to Germany were in direct opposition to the views of other Zionists, such as Ze’ev Jabotinsky, who wanted Britain to defeat the Nazis even as they wanted to expel the British from Palestine.” Source

    What’s important to know is that Lehi while not the biggest organisation they were extremely violent.

    No, for the question of “the right wing Zionists working with the Nazis” it is not important. You can be extremely violent without working with Nazis…

    Their radical Zionism played a big part in shaping israel and their “the end justifies the means” approach can clearly be observed to this day.

    This may well be, but is also not the same as working with Nazis.

    Bonus meme: Lehi also ran the newspaper Hamaas

    Also no relevance for the question of working with Nazis.








  • Holy shit

    Ben Gvir was known to have a portrait in his living room of Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish extremist and Israeli-American mass murderer who massacred 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounded 125 others in the 1994 Cave of the Patriarchs massacre in Hebron.

    In December 2021, Ben-Gvir was investigated after a video surfaced of him pulling a handgun on Arab security guards during a parking dispute in the underground garage of the Expo Tel Aviv conference center. The guards asked Ben-Gvir to move his vehicle as he was parked in a prohibited space. He then drew a pistol and brandished it at the guards.

    In early October 2023, following the arrest of 5 ultra-Orthodox Heredi Jews for spitting at Christians and outside churches, Ben-Gvir said it was “not a criminal case” following arrests.[60] Prior to entering politics, he defended Jews spitting at Christians as “an ancient Jewish custom”.

    Wikipedia



  • I don’t think so.

    What are you trying to say? I don’t know that much about Scouting in the U.S. At least in Germany we didn’t have this gender divide in scouting, but as GSUSA were founded after the BSA I suspect that their goal was to provide scouting for girls because they couldn’t join BSA.


  • As soon as men try to organize and speak out we get called sexist.

    That’s simply not true. We have at least one counselling centre in our city that is “boys/young men only” and several “men only” self help groups. I’ve never heard them being called sexist, on the contrary people generally agree that this is a good thing and we need more of this. And they are certainly not forced to include other genders.

    There are obviously not enough initiatives like these. But a blanket statement like yours is false and if you make the claim that men are regularly getting called out as sexist for forming liberal safe spaces you should provide some sources (I’m not denying that it happens, it’s just not something I’ve experienced).

    Just look at the boy scouts (ignoring the pedophiles)

    The goal of boy scouts wasn’t to provide a safe space to explore gender identity or emotions or anything like that. There was no reason to exclude other genders.


  • Until there’s a liberal space for men, it’s going to cause them to flock to lying conservatives.

    I mean, they/we also could create these spaces for us, much in the same way women did (and many other groups). And of course it’s easier to fall for reactionary groups when liberal groups are less visible, but it’s still a decision to follow their bullshit.

    Shoutout to [email protected] (and similar spaces)