I’m not going to vote for Trump. If my state were a swing state, I’d vote for Biden. I’m going to work on getting us a third option with my vote since im not in a swing state.

!you don’t get to say both choices suck,!<

What’s the point of this whole democracy thing if I can’t even say my piece? Like what are we defending if we’re just going to get in line and shut up anyway?

Anyways the two parties are still basically the same. We deserve an actual left wing party.

Oh I’m sorry. Do we have a popular vote to determine president now? I’m talking about the real world here. That kind of naive BS is what let trump win the first time

Leftists: you’re running a corpse that’s committing a genocide that tons of tons of younger voters are actually protesting against. Also no Democrats only when elections when voter turnout is high. We should run a more likable candidate so we don’t lose to the fascist?

Liberals(the scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds kind): That’s accelerationism! you want Trump to win. This isn’t like 2016 all over again but also Running Hillary was the right decision. People just voted wrong. 🤡

If Biden stays in and Trump wins, I just want you to know you’re the useful idiot fuck you.

Sure. They both benefit from the same situation. Both benefit from the weird electoral system the states have and they both benefit by being one of only two parties. Infact they are almost completely dependent on each other. Once Republican Democrat politicians realized they could get elected by getting people afraid of the opposition instead of excited for their candidate they’ve had this country voting for the lesser of two evils ever since. 🤷

Both options suck, but the Democrats are slightly better than the Republicans. They both get paid by the same people and they both push forward the same agenda. For example, probably the most left-wing policy we’ve had come out of our countries. Federal government in a long time is Obamacare. But Obamacare was actually thought up by a right-wing think tank called the heritage foundation. It’s a Republican idea that works as bad as other Republican ideas but because it was put forward by a Democrat because who’s going to defend it? The real solution is single-payer universal healthcare like any other non-backwards ass country has. But the Democrats being controlled opposition put Obamacare there instead.

Hope that helps you understand where other people are coming from. 👈😎 I find the short form memes like that used to strip away. Nuance and “trigger” those who disagree with you to be a very trumpet esque style of memeing.

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I appreciate the non-rude and direct response. Someone else raised this point to me and I responded with this link that shows 70% of Americans watch cable news. Considering digital news is much bigger now, that means even more Americans watch the news regularly, so I believe you are incorrect.

Honestly, I might rather be under China’s booth than America’s at this point. Least their standard of living is rising and the prison population’s lower.

I think you’re right. New Zealand is the best. Don’t have to avoid beachfront property if you can’t afford it though lmao 🤣

Honestly the longer this left infighting goes on the more hopeless I get. This isn’t going to work. The corpse of genocide Joe is just as bad a candidate as Hillary Clinton was in 2016. And I hate to say it but that means the fascist is probably going to win.

So when Trump beats Biden in November what country should I move to to be safe? Australia seems like a decent pick so does New Zealand. I kind of think Vietnam might be fun. What are y’all’s thoughts.

I don’t think that’s true. Please consider voting third party and don’t forget about the other down ballot races. 🙂 -just another dude stuck in the same political hellscape

Have you seen this last debate? I would have said exactly that until I saw this one. To me the difference between Biden in this debate vs Biden debating in 2020 is night and day different. So I think it’s fair to say rapidly deteriorating. 🤷

This is super hypocritical coming from pugjesus. Yikes.

Well I hope you’re right but I and many other see it differently. 🤷

I don’t know why everyone thinks this is some rarely understood point. I think most people get this.

However, You have to be electable to a country where 30 to 40% of people. Think Trump is a god king who can do no wrong and never lies. Hillary’s administration almost certainly would have been better than Trump’s. Hillary still lost. Biden running as he is now is dangerous. That’s where it makes the real difference. Biden might lose to trump and we might get Trump again. Any other sane and half way competent milk toast politician won’t have that problem. Biden continuing to run is a danger to democracy.

Dude I’ve been wondering the same thing lately. I’ve been countering the same types. I’ve been referring to him as blue maga.

No one Is suggesting you should vote for Trump and his fascist. I’m saying I’m worried Biden won’t beat Trump and his fascist in an election because he’s not a strong candidate at all. This is the same problem we have with Hillary in 2016

I also attended a small private religious conservative school growing up. Happy to see someone like me out in the world with progressive politics. Good on you stranger. ☺️ I hope you’re living life to the fullest.

That explanation makes sense to me. Good theory 👈😎

My bad Thanks for letting me know.

I totally get that sentiment. I don’t really understand it either. I have family members that votes for Trump. It’s like their brain is rotted. They constantly use words that they don’t have a definition for like woke or CRT. They think everyone is lying except for Trump. It’s terrifying honestly.

I think that’s about 30% to 40% of Americans sadly.

Did you see the debate last night? That ain’t the dude who ran in 2020. Also I think the political pressure pot of 2020 was unique because people were trapped inside and forced to watch the news even more. People would have voted for anyone but Trump then. There’s still a lot of people that feel that way myself included. But not everyone who felt that way in 2020 feels that way in 2024. That’s just the reality. I really don’t think Biden has it this time.