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Cake day: October 1st, 2024

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  • I have a young relative who uses a chromebook for school. I bought the same model for cheap, and guided them through opening it up, looking over the internals, and putting it back together again.

    I was going to show my fam how to wipe it and install linux, but then I came across the need for using google’s ecosystem (for a project I’m collaborating with others on.) I have a flip-phone that I use when I need to give out numbers, so I used that to make the google account. Basically I only ever log on to that google account on that chromebook, and only for that project, so it’s compartmentalized.


  • Your source number 2 involves a hard interdisciplinary research problem: “what is meaningful language use?” My grad school thesis was tangentially related to it, so I’m most familiar with it from the AI perspective. Early AI researchers quickly realized that you can’t just dump a dictionary into a computer and suddenly have it understand language. You can add high-level “scripts” to the computer (Schankian scripts), but then it will just be manipulating symbols (chinese room problem). You can tie the symbols to things in the world (symbol grounding) or to its own processing (embodied meaning) but how do you coordinate those symbols with other agents, be they people or machines?

    Think about that last question for a moment. Do you have an answer? I don’t think anyone does yet, so whatever you’re thinking is probably a good start towards further reading. @fubo@lemmy.world’s reply points out some of the issues involved, and these issues suggest the problem’s interdisciplinary nature: psychology, sociology, corpus linguistics, philosophy (both analytic i.e. Wittgenstein and Kripke, and continental as suggested by @AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world’s reply), cognitive science, neurolinguistics, etc. Literary theory is fun too, they say things like: an interpretation is situated, subjective, and performative. OK, sounds great, but how do you turn that into something that a computer does? It turns out that there are a lot of great ideas, but there’s still a lot of work to do to tie it all together. (and unfortunately way too many people think deep neural networks / LLMs can just solve it all by themselves grumble grumble…)

    Given the above, to answer your specific question: “Is [meaningful] language mostly solipsistic?” I think most people would say “probably not”, with the caveat that it depends on how you define your terms. Clearly there are very important processes that work only in your own cognitive system, but it seems likely that external factors also play a necessary role.


  • Yeah! They are absolutely super lame. The only scene I remember from when I first watched this is the part where the kids are being driven to the concert by their dad, who looks like a totally 80s retro guy, and I thought the kids were kind of cringe. Years later I realized that ICP were in complete control of that documentary – they intentionally put that scene in there! Part of their whole message is that it’s OK to be a cringe scrub who everybody looks down on, because there are plenty of other people like that, and you can still be a good person and have friends and not give in to despair. So unlike other conceptions of the underground and counterculture, they’re not claiming to be cool or hip, and their clown personas enable them to emphasize this.