Men don’t have a reason to reject traditional gender norms and in fact have reasons not to.
Some men who don’t reject gender roles kill themselves.
If they had rejected the criticism as invalid and distanced themselves from those people, it seems the data suggests they’d live longer. In my experience, it works.
if necessary you leave the people who make your life insufferable.
Great plan there! Abandon every survival tactic you’ve ever known and if any of the few actual allies in your life bitch about it abandon them too. Wander out into the world disarmed and entirely alone…
They’re not all your allies, and who you keep contact with and how you do it is up to you. You sound like you deeply fear the world, and instead choose familiar hostility.
The energy you’re bringing here is “have you tried…not being trans?”
How the fuck am I bringing that energy? I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about shutting out traditional family if necessary to avoid harassment. I wasn’t specifically thinking about trans people, but they fit under the broader umbrella of misfits living in tradition-town needing a way out that isn’t so final.
I don’t know if you want to try transitioning or not, I didn’t really get a picture of what you’re about. But no, I personally see no reason to tell people they can’t.
Look, there are good and bad people out there. But the average experience is less bad than having to endure prolonged adult contact with cruel family. People distance themselves from cruel people for good reason. People do move away when necessary, even if there are risks. For some people life didn’t really start before they kinda got away from their past like that.
But I just mentioned that as an option to not have to endure it. Often it’s enough to just distance yourself socially from the people who are a problem.
Some men who don’t reject gender roles kill themselves.
I pre-emptively addressed this.
“Traditional men commit suicide, weren’t you listening?” Causation or correlation?
I don’t get a sense that you have an idea in your head, you’re just disagreeing with me for it’s own sake. So my five minutes is up, I’m not paying for the full half hour.
You know that CD collection you posted, where the guy in the bottom right is hanging off the side holding onto a rope?
Do that, but hold on with your neck.
Calling me a chatbot is fucked, fuck off. I hate the future. Maybe you’re the fucking bot.
I mean yeah, I saw the Hank Green video from a couple days ago or something where he was on bluesky and ended up realizing he was talking to a disagree bot, and that’s got this air of awful dead internet dystopia to it. But to be accused of being one, myself? Fuck you.
This is a case where I’m going to do brain surgery with a backhoe. Disagree bots are now a thing that exist on the internet. So if I find myself arguing with someone who doesn’t seem to have an actual idea they’re arguing for they’re just disagreeing with me, I’m going to dismiss them as a worthless troll, automated or not.
Also, I knew what I was arguing for, but time passed, I woke up in the middle of the night to take a leak, and I saw you’d called me a bot so all that stuff about “Don’t kill yourself! If your family and everyone around you is a cunt, then ignore then, maybe leave them!” went in the trash. Mostly because being called a bit when I feel I’m so obviously not a bot is jarring, and I feel like my ideal of the internet is crumbling into an unrecoverable mess.
Nobody gets respect when clapping for emphasis.
Some men who don’t reject gender roles kill themselves.
If they had rejected the criticism as invalid and distanced themselves from those people, it seems the data suggests they’d live longer. In my experience, it works.
They’re not all your allies, and who you keep contact with and how you do it is up to you. You sound like you deeply fear the world, and instead choose familiar hostility.
How the fuck am I bringing that energy? I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about shutting out traditional family if necessary to avoid harassment. I wasn’t specifically thinking about trans people, but they fit under the broader umbrella of misfits living in tradition-town needing a way out that isn’t so final.
I don’t know if you want to try transitioning or not, I didn’t really get a picture of what you’re about. But no, I personally see no reason to tell people they can’t.
Look, there are good and bad people out there. But the average experience is less bad than having to endure prolonged adult contact with cruel family. People distance themselves from cruel people for good reason. People do move away when necessary, even if there are risks. For some people life didn’t really start before they kinda got away from their past like that.
But I just mentioned that as an option to not have to endure it. Often it’s enough to just distance yourself socially from the people who are a problem.
I’m very convinced you’re a ChatGPT-based disagree bot now. You’ve got the reading comprehension skills of one.
That’s fucked.
I pre-emptively addressed this.
I don’t get a sense that you have an idea in your head, you’re just disagreeing with me for it’s own sake. So my five minutes is up, I’m not paying for the full half hour.
You know that CD collection you posted, where the guy in the bottom right is hanging off the side holding onto a rope?
Do that, but hold on with your neck.
Calling me a chatbot is fucked, fuck off. I hate the future. Maybe you’re the fucking bot.
I mean yeah, I saw the Hank Green video from a couple days ago or something where he was on bluesky and ended up realizing he was talking to a disagree bot, and that’s got this air of awful dead internet dystopia to it. But to be accused of being one, myself? Fuck you.
This is a case where I’m going to do brain surgery with a backhoe. Disagree bots are now a thing that exist on the internet. So if I find myself arguing with someone who doesn’t seem to have an actual idea they’re arguing for they’re just disagreeing with me, I’m going to dismiss them as a worthless troll, automated or not.
Also, I knew what I was arguing for, but time passed, I woke up in the middle of the night to take a leak, and I saw you’d called me a bot so all that stuff about “Don’t kill yourself! If your family and everyone around you is a cunt, then ignore then, maybe leave them!” went in the trash. Mostly because being called a bit when I feel I’m so obviously not a bot is jarring, and I feel like my ideal of the internet is crumbling into an unrecoverable mess.
And me, you still think I’m some fucking automation?
Comedy requires I answer “yes.”
Nah fuck you, man. How could a bot make a topical obscure reference like this:
https://lemm.ee/comment/16678247
And I’m not even much of a reference guy.