Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux’s permission prompts
I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it’s been broken so long. Like, years long.
It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.
(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)
It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.
Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don’t give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won’t fix it.
I saw something from a discord dev (can’t find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they’d have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they’d probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.
I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn’t really stabilized enough for them to be interested.
You give them too much credit. It’s just shitty, that’s it.
Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There’s just no real alternative unfortunately.
Lets create an alternative.
There is an alternative people have used before discord came, it is called teamspeak. Is still around as well, but works more like a federated system since everyone has to set up and host their own server for people to use.
Teamspeak is no alternative to discord. Sorry. Also its not even open source, is it?
Discord isnt open source either tho so how does that matter for the comparison?
And while yes it is a little outdated, I do recall the time before discord when people would have their own teamspeak server instead, which worked very similar to the fediverse.
You had the client and could connect to any server you had the credentials to, which each were owned and hosted by various people or groups each with their own rules and code of conduct.
Mumble is open source.
When do they stop selling user data? Next patch?
they say they dont sell any user data, although i have my doubts about that
It doesn’t really matter if they do or don’t. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.
Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?
They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.
They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.
They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.
They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.
I know, I know…crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!
i think you’re totally right, i just dont like people saying theyre doing it right now.
Frankly i think we should use matrix instead, but it just isnt good enough yet
Just use spacebar instead
Spacebar doesn’t even do voice calls does it? Let alone screen share
Yea Its not perfect, but hopefully on the way
It’s not ready for most people unfortunately
I’ve been screen sharing from discord on hyprland for months, it wasn’t already working?
Last I checked I could only share specific windows, not the whole screen. Later there was also an update with a window or screen selection dialogue that didn’t work at all, I think. After that I stopped using it on wayland.
I regularly share my whole screen
I have an issue with the dialog box popping up multiple times but that’s it, still works
The only caveat is window specific sharing often doesn’t work because of how Wayland works
i think it works for you because you have xwayland video bridge installed
And yes, vesktop did it first, but discord’s version is quite a bit more polished
Vesktop still allows you to choose a single audio output, Discord’s implementation seems to share system audio of all running apps, and doesn’t let you choose the specific application.
Fuck Discord! 🙂
Sadly there’s no alternative.
matrix, xmpp
no alternative that’s as user-friendly and feature-complete
I wouldn’t say discord is either of those things
They need to limit server sizes, get rid of community searching, and add #XXXX to the end of usernames before we can pretend that
Zulip has been around for a loooong time. It integrates well with Jitsi, and is fully self-hostable.
Why?
These articles are very old and not super relevant any more. Sources of 2018 and 2019, while a lot has changed over the years.
I’m not here to “defend” Discord and pretend it’s all gravy, but if you want to make a compelling argument, I think it’s a good idea to stick to current, factual information.
But still doesn’t accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.
Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting
Sent by me:
Dear Discord Privacy Team!
I’m writing to you to inform you that your platform (mobile, desktop, browser) can enforce the user to verify their account with a phone number, after the user has changed their E-Mail adress. This is a serios privacy problem! I’d like you to verify that you don’t intend on providing other (more privacy friendly) means of account verification apart from providing the phone number. I suddenly cannot use my Discord account due to this and I object to providing a phone number.
Kind regards, ~sntx
Their answer:
Discord Privacy Team (Discord Support)
Hi there,
Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, we aren’t able to assist you here. This channel is reserved for privacy questions and requests.
It looks like this is a question for our Customer Support team. We recommend that you resubmit your request and choose the appropriate reporting option. You can do so here: […].
In the meantime you can check out our Help Center for more info on everything Discord.
We appreciate your understanding.
Sincerely, Discord Privacy Team
But its a server setting to need phone verification. Im on a ton of servers and never provided them my phone number. One server changed access rights manually for my username because i refused to give discord my phone number when they enabled the verification requirement haha.
Also, their response is terrible haha
That’s about time… I won’t be uninstalling vesktop tho
Oh awesome, I’ve been using the webcord version as the others were all shit for screen sharing. Having said that even webcord also has weird sound issue sim hoping are fixed with this.
What about audio sharing?
also works, although it says audio “may not work in certain instances”
Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.
I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.
I get that there’s other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.
There’s plenty of free alternatives that works much better than discord
Not if I want calling, video chat, screen sharing and role based chat rooms all in the same place. I’ve explored this, but it just isn’t feature complete enough at the moment. I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user and Matrix just doesn’t manage it.
Calls and video chats works just fine in matrix and client like element allow you to integrate other services if you don’t like the default ones.
I’d definitely describe myself as a Discord power user
You sound a lot like someone who use windows. We are on a linux sub.
I am a Linux user. Bizarre assumption to make given my excitement over a Wayland specific Discord feature. But I don’t have any actual qualms with how Discord implements its own services. Matrix just doesn’t fit the bill for me. If you enjoy it, and it suits your needs then all the power to you. It just isn’t what works for me.
Took them long enough
now fix push to talk which is arguable far more important
The bigger Discord becomes, the more irrelevant it is to me.
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