• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I hate to be a jerk, but those are useless links for the subject matter. They don’t really explain anything about what alternatives would be in place for people that commit violent crimes of any kind, which (since that’s part of the title of your post), means they aren’t good links.

    I’m in favor of extreme reforms of the prison systems, and have opinions about alternatives, and still couldn’t find anything in those links that would be useful to me, much less someone that’s on the fence regarding the issue, and anyone actually asking the question in the title would absolutely quit reading after there were no answers to the real question.

    The last link is essentially a screed on what the writer thinks is the cause of rape, and myths about rape, which has only the most tangential connection to actual reform of a criminal justice system as a whole.

    Again, I have to be a jerk, but those sources suck.

    It’s like any subject of reform or reconstruction. If you can’t provide clear, simple plans for the obvious objections, it isn’t happening

    • Mambabasa@slrpnk.netOPM
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      3 months ago

      Come on, Instead of Prisons is like 500 pages long. Just admit you don’t have the patience to read.

      Abolition is complex. Simple plans are for fascists who can attract any simpleton with sophistry. The violence of policing and incarceration are both very simple plans for the causes of harm. We address criminalization by abolishing the police and prisons. We address future harms through addressing their root causes. We address present harms through harm reduction. We address harms already done through restorative and transformative justice. None of this is simple, clear, or obvious. The work of abolition is always harder than the status quo.

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          It’s really not, though. Terms like “restorative justice” are not generic positive adjective pablum - they are specific terms with specific meanings. If you don’t know the meanings and don’t care to research them, that’s on you.