• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Show me these people you’re talking who call themselves accelerationists. Because it’s starting to sound suspiciously like that’s just a label you’re applying to people whose praxis you disagree with

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      8 days ago

      Watching everything burn isn’t praxis. Their strategy is to let fascists win, so they aren’t even anti-fascist. It’s self-defeating because it helps no one and gets us further from progressive and socialist goals.

      I argue with a lot of people arguing for accelerationism so there is my comment and post history. Alternatively you could go through the Political Memes, politics, News, and World News communities. Political Memes would probably be the easiest to find relevant posts and comments.

      The search bar is a helpful tool for this. Individual communities can be selected to be searched. Searching on accelerationism is a good place to start. Once you find some users arguing against or for this rhetoric you can review their comment and post history.

      I have been participating in and following along with the political discourse on lemmy. Lots of other people have to. I’m not the only one who has noticed the prevalence of accelerationism rhetoric or the only person arguing against accelertionism.

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        8 days ago

        You’re gonna have to do better than “look through my comments and a bunch of posts on different communities, I argued with a bunch of accelerationists there”. You’ve got a shit ton of comments, many are very long, and I’ve got better shit to do with my time than clicking all your comments and all the comments on all the posts on all those communities and ctrl-f’ing for the word accelerationist. Please link or quote a comment where someone is literally arguing in favor of accelerationism, or if you can’t, just stop baselessly calling people accelerationists

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        8 days ago

        I have looked at a few dozen of your comments, and absolutely none have advocated for making things go to shit in order to make society collapse, or anything remotely close to that, just people arguing against voting democrat, or even just people criticizing democrats. Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?

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          15 hours ago

          https://www.project2025.org/

          https://www.25and.me/?topics=

          The US just elected a fascist dictator. Millions of people are now at risk of being deported and millions could be killed by fascist policies. Your argument is unsuccessfully minimizing how badly this election has fucked us. The people arguing against voting Democrat are the accelerationists arguing for a strategy to make society collapse.

          Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?

          I recommend paying attention. The results of this election could impact us for decades to come and may lead us to some of the worst outcomes of climate change. Accelerationists have fundamentally misunderstood the lessons of history and have demonstrated they do not care about anyone but themselves. Things get better when we learn from our mistakes not when we repeat them. Watching things burn is useless. We have to do the work to make things better. edit: typo

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            13 hours ago

            You’re very blatantly just calling people who voted in ways you disagree with accelerationists. You’re intentionally misrepresenting them to portray them as evil because if they don’t Vote Blue No Matter Who they must be evil and want the world to end. Please get your head out of your ass <3

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              11 hours ago

              Your argument is what is known as a straw man. No where in my argument do I claim accelerationists are evil. My argument is that accelerationism as a strategy is useless.

              Your argument isn’t based on the discussions on Lemmy or anything in the argument you are responding to. If you aren’t going to engage with either of those then there is little point of continuing this discussion.

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                11 hours ago

                Every conservative accusation is a confession. This applies to liberals too apparently. How in the heck are you gonna say I’m strawmanning you while literally calling people accelerationists when they don’t claim to be xD fuck off l*beral, from the river to the sea 🇵🇸

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                  11 hours ago

                  From the river to the sea. I’m a social democrat.

                  If you actually cared, accelerationism would bother you because they left the Palestinians out to dry. Trump being president may have killed Palestinian statehood. Israel is talking about annexing the West Bank. These election results have undoubtedly extended the genocide in Gaza for at least the next four years, assuming anyone lives that long. Israel wants to build a greater Israel out of Lebanon too and Trump is going to let them. Accelerationism is useless.

                  🇵🇸

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                    10 hours ago

                    Keep referring to Muslims and immigrants who want a president that won’t kill them as accelerationists, surely this time shaming people will get them on your side