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Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”
The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”
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Might as well define the Earth as flat and the Moon as green cheese while he’s at it.
Do these fuckers have literally nothing else to do than wage wars against reality?
Maybe a strategy to distract the masses while they and their
supportershandlers steal the country blind.I think you mis-spelled “Likely”.
I know you misspelled “certainly.”
They might try. They’ve already tried to legislate a definition of pi to equal exactly 3.
No, I refuse to believe that’s ever hap-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill
Motherfucker…
It keeps us divided. It misdirects the anger of their base towards something other than how badly they are being fucked.
Never attribute that to malice which can be adequately explained by stupidity… Unless it comes from the mouth of a Republican politician.
Yes because if they admit reality, none of them should be in power.
This is surely going to lower the price of eggs.
When women are factory farmed baby makers…oh you meant those eggs.
I kind of feel like all this spawned from some hot trans-girl turning down one of these shitstains and they’ve never let it go.
To be honest it’s probably all the hot trans-girls turning them down, like there’s a conspiracy or something, but hot trans-girls just don’t like conservative assholes.
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Setting aside the mind, it is a biological fact that approximately 1 in 1700 people are born with both sexual organs.
They’re supposed to just, die?
What seems like a rhetorical question to you does not to a fascist.
According to Republicans, yes
Because irony has been bludgeoned to death by these bigots, I’d like to point out they’ve already been performing sex-reassignment surgery on intersex infants to make them conform to a binary sex, without the knowledge or consent of the baby and sometimes the parents. That’s been happening for ages in some places.
So all their tantrums over kids getting sex surgeries are technically true, except they have it completely backwards. It’s done to newborns to force traditional conformity, and they’re the ones doing it.
Another fact, indigenous peoples all over the world had several genders, some dozens.
Intersex people occur at the same rate as redheads. This is the same thing as a proposal to kill all redheads for being redheads
This is really fascinating. I had to idea. Would love to read more on this if you have any recommendations
But gingers don’t have a soul so I guess it’s fine?
Not the dangerous radical gender ideology of trying to be happy
Is there any argument for trans people getting their rights removed?
Bigotry
People dont hate trans people just to hate trans people. They have reason, even if they are bad
Bullshit. It comes from a simple disgust reflex. Everything else is post-hoc justification.
Name one.
And specifically, christian nationalism.
That was what i was asking
One argument i have seen against acknowledging the existence of trans people is that people will be tricked into changing their gender
Its not a good argument, but it exists.
It’s bullshit and you’re either a sucker or a liar for playing along, pretending you don’t know what subtext is.
I wasnt asking for valid arguments against a group of people
Also, i had to search the definition of the word subtext
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Making everything sexual for children while not even acknowledging the sickness of it.
Same shit said about gay people.
Being gay isn’t sexual. Being straight isn’t sexual. Being trans isn’t sexual. Someone saying they are a girl is not sexual. Someone saying they are a boy is not sexual.
You see how none of this relates to sex?
The real answer is that a lot of people don’t really understand being trans. A lot of people used to the same way about gay and lesbian people. Conservatives tried to rally hard against gay and lesbian people, but that proved unpopular. Trans people don’t have that same protection. So, they’ll go after it until people finally get it.
Conservatives only have identity politics.
I’ll agree someone saying they are are a girl/boy or trans isn’t sexual. Gender isn’t inherently sexual. Someone being gay/straight feels like it’s absolutely sexual. Implied with the"sexual" in homo or heterosexual. You could have nonsexual gay/straight thoughts/feelings I guess, but those are just feelings. Like, ANYONE is allowed to have them regardless of orientation, and honestly sounds like it’s bordering on asexual. Do you have a learning example for that line of thought? Before any angry blowback: I’m not trying to be a dick about this. As far as my understanding of this goes, I don’t follow that comment.
I’m referring to nudity and expressing sexuality in front of children. Drag and children. Parades of expression with children involved. Seeing essentially naked men and women and children being encouraged to interact in it.
Nudity is also not inherently sexual. You can be naked for reasons outside of having sex, such as cleaning yourself, using the bathroom, changing outfits, sunbathing, relaxing, etc. None of those are inherently sexual.
Wearing drag is not sexual either. It’s been a thing for centuries, and that’s just the easily identifiable stuff.
Wearing kink gear is not inherently sexual, though I can understand that you don’t recognize that because it has connotations. But you can wear it without it being a sexual act.
“Expressing” sexuality is purposefully vague. Is kissing expressing sexuality? Is holding hands? Children do those. That would be an expression of your sexual orientation. You aren’t really making any sense.
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If that were a valid explanation then why is the bill banning any adult recognition of trans adults?
There’s a different conversation on whether to allow gender affirming therapy for minors.
Sure. Different conversation I agree. I wasn’t commenting to the original post. Just that the idea that transgenderism and the issues surrounding it arent hard discussions with people outside of the community here is irrational.
Ah yes not bigotry just made up bs points that are meant to do nothing but stop trans people from being accepted.
A lot of these points had analogues in the past with other minority rights movements, but why look to the past and see how those points were non-issues when we can instead get mad about the transgenders CoNfUsInG OuR ChIlDrEn.
And
Suicide causes for transgender teens is often reported as bullying or bigotry, but not often reported on the lack of support for dysphoria and other mental health conditions.
This just means we need to let kids be who they are and support them in their transition, that is the only logical conclusion of that issue.
People matter.
Unless they’re t****n freaks, then they can get outed to their abusive parents and sent to conversion camps for all I care :^)
Are you referring to yourself? No one who loves their children wants to send them to conversion camp. There are definitely discussions to have regarding the proper medical treatments and psychological care and how the involvement of the state and legislature hurts more than helps. But I don’t want the state being involved in how we raise our children. I don’t want to change children or parents sending their kids to camp. But you can’t pretend that parents and our communities aren’t involved in the way a child is raised, how they grow mentally and encouraging strengths, and guiding them in a healthy way. Let kids be who they are and make sure they get the support they need.
You say that and yet when a child decides to confide in their teacher for their own safety, instead of their parents, you want them to be forced to out the children.
And the entire “poor confused children” rhetoric doesn’t do anything but hurt us. We are not confused, we are devastated by being forced to go through the wrong puberty.
It really doesn’t sound like you’re a bigot but please examine the sort of rhetoric you take in and spread.
The reason is bigotry. And misogyny.
I doubt you’ll see them freaking out about trans men playing men’s sports.
It’s literally just bigotry and propaganda
Doesnt propaganda still have to give reasons or have a reason for people to believe the message?
We need media stepping up the messaging that the Right is infatuated with the genitals of people, especially children. Outside of maybe your Dr. (and/or partner), nobody should be talking about, or caring about your genitals to the degree the Right is in this pervy/pedo crusade of late.
The right owns the media. The revolution will not be televised.
They own the traditional media, but not the hundreds of thousands of YouTube and TikTok influencers with millions of followers each.
The revolution will be vlogged.
Oh my sweet summer child,
They own the social media companies too.
We really need to start saying that these people want their own family members killed. It seems to be the only thing that can get some people to listen
They’re not even replacing anything, they’re just adding to it. Why do ya’ll even care. Life is already so fucking miserable, even worse when you feel like you’re not even in the right body. Fucking help people. Why is it that seemingly every politician just hates people? Why go out of your wait to be a representative just to make people miserable.
Because picking on ever smaller societal minority classes makes them look hard on the issues. Torturing people that otherwise don’t effect you is easy political points for heartless monsters representing imbeciles.
Exploiting hatred instead of trying to resolve hatred really.
Someone should establish a Department of Senate Efficiency to look into whether that is an efficient use of the senates time.
Not a catchy enough name for fuckin Neanderthals to chuckle about
“As a physician who has delivered over 5,000 babies, I can confidently say that politicizing children’s gender to use them as pawns in their radical woke agenda is not only wrong, it is extremely dangerous" has got to be the most unaware sentence I’ve ever seen.
Wait, if they are erased, can they then become invisible superheroes?
Go back to Reddit
LoL, are you “go back where you came from” ing me? Go bob some apples, K, bob.
He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”
bill attempts to stop something that was never occuring
Holy shit, it worked and it hasn’t even been signed yet.
I don’t know about y’all but I don’t remember Kamala or Biden directly spreading information in favor of lgbtq+ values. That’s mostly been Hollywood. There might be some lobbying going on and some shoulder rubbing, but… I mean, I have yet to even hear Biden say the word trans in any real context unless I’m wrong, here. Their stance is less a stance and more of a “you’re human, you’re cool too”.
But the scene does seem to be that the Republican party can just claim they stopped Kaijus and Holy wars and their fanbases will eat it up, so…
“Hey, my podcast said you didn’t exist yesterday.”
…sorry to disappoint you.
@floofloof And this guy is an actual MD, as in medical doctor.
Aren’t doctors supposed to take an oath to do no harm? This will cause so much harm.
Republicanlawmakers only swear an oath to whomever is paying them the most.Edit: Democrats do it too, just not as obviously and not all of them. Until we get rid of corporate lobbying, we’ll be firmly in an oligarchy.
Technically, no. “Do no harm” was the motto of a 19th century French physician and later made its way into medical textbooks, but it is not found in the Hippocratic oath.
It seems those exact words don’t feature in the oath, but the pledge to do no harm is there, worded slightly differently.
Dr Oz is a real doctor as well. Unfortunately medical school doesn’t prevent people from being delusional. Or giant assholes for that matter
Dr. Oz is the 1 doctor out of 10 who chooses the other brand.
Imagine if we had a senate that was focused on real political and social issues instead of who has the “right” to go to the bathroom. Fucking nonsense.
I mean they had the chance during 4 years didn’t they
No-one is “replacing biological sex” silly.
Gender is different from sex. It’s related, but separate.
Sex and gender are also both very nuanced and complicated terms
Idk about the terms, but the concepts and definitions are, yeah.
