Summary

An Idaho doctor testified that confusion over the state’s strict abortion bans left a miscarrying patient “passed around like a hot potato” as doctors avoided treating her out of fear of legal consequences.

The 14-week pregnant woman, suffering heavy bleeding and anemia, was denied care during three ER visits before being admitted against hospital rules, miscarrying, and requiring a blood transfusion.

The testimony is part of a lawsuit challenging Idaho’s abortion laws, which ban most abortions with few exceptions, leaving patients in dangerous situations without timely care.

  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    Isn’t this a more Kafka version of death panels that we were promised under Obamacare.

    There is no death panel however you have been deemed to die by the death panel. Good luck navigating the bureaucracy.

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      You have to actually read a book to even know what you mean when you say “Kafka.” So good luck convincing anyone with that.

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      Genuinely, they should be called Matricide Laws. Tank it the same way Republicans keep trying to tank “Obamacare”

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        Matricide is too fancy a word.

        Give it something simpler and more outrageous, like “Killing Moms Law” and talk about the Trump death panels who chose this.

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        They’re the ones who came up with the name Obamacare, so that it would tank on name alone.

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          Yes, exactly. Which is why people should start going to town hall meetings, Senate hearings, etc. and asking various questions about “Matricide Laws.” When they get corrected that these are abortion bans, explain that the law is killing hopeful mothers and these lawmakers are okay with it—if matricide wasn’t the point, it certainly appears to be a welcome side-effect.

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        Every private insurer has a death panel that is only accountable to share holders. Progressives need to start framing stuff in those terms instead of letting the Republicans bully them into accepting their framing.

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          The republican party is constantly able to dominate the conversation. Every election cycle they decide whether immigration/economics/war/whatever is what will be discussed and the democrats try to play defense instead of just calling them out.

          “Death panels already exist do you want them to be purely for-profit?” it’s not even that hard they’re just incompetent.

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            Part of it is that they want to placate their “moderate” wing too (read: the donors). If your plan is Medicare for All, you can say that and it’s easy to explain to people. If your plan is the Affordable Care Act, you’ll still have the for profit death panels, so you’d have to say something like: ‘we’ll regulate the existing death panels slightly more and force you to sign up to them’, which doesn’t actually sound that great.

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    Hollywood should start making movie after movie where the protagonist loses a loved one to some fucking asinine Republican laws, and then just goes on a vengeance spree.

    Build a whole new MCU-style universe just around the backwards-ass shitstain policies coming out of these freeloader states, and a whole cast of kid-diddling fuckwads who are taken out by the wrath of righteous anger. People would watch that shit.

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    “I was working with some amazing nurses and we decided as a team that we were going to break our hospital’s rules and admit her, even though she wasn’t 20 weeks pregnant because I just couldn’t send her home again and hope for the best,” Lyons said.

    More like this please. Fuck your hospital’s rules, make something up if you need to, this is someone’s life. Bureaucracy isn’t really very good at checking itself and a lot of rules get broken “by mistake”. If the rules are bad, don’t follow them. If anyone actually gets on your case, “I’m sorry, I guess I misremembered the policy and was worried about protecting the hospital from liability”.

    Employees on the front lines have a lot more power to grind dumb rules to dust than they think.

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    They should just exclude pregnancy, births and anything associated with it from health care.

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        Women should be screaming in agony and bleeding out in their beds at home, as god intended. Pain and death in childbirth is the price of Eve’s sin, and only the pure and righteous earn an easy pregnancy.

        I am not kidding, I’ve heard this from evangelical extremists (who have now been voted into power).

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          and the big argument that a lot of first world countries debate is the lowering birth rates … why in the hell would anyone want to have children in this environment?