Pro-lifers don’t care.
All they care about is the fact that the white population will decrease as no one can afford/wants children, so the best way to remedy that is to force them to.
I was confused at first, what you meant by professional-lifer
The worst part is draconic abortion bans also hurt those trying to have children. No one’s getting recreational third trimester abortions. You picked out a name, painted the nursery. Late term abortions are tragedies to all parties, and only ever happen because of life threatening conditions.
I wouldn’t want to plan a child when any complication could mean death.
Which is why republicans and conservatives want it gone: they want you to have children.
They want having children to be a woman’s punishment for unapproved sex, and they want the kid (who had zero responsibility for creating that situation) to suffer through it along with her, with zero help so it’s all as unpleasant as possible, cuz apparently that makes Baby Jesus smile. Fucking lunatics.
At its core it’s about population control. As the birth rate is falling capitalism needs bodies to keep the cogs turning.
To a certain extent, but capitalism always adjusts to changes in birth rates. Reducing payroll has been a trend since the 80s, accelerating with computers, robotics, and now AI.
New meat MUST be bred to feed the machine of infinite growth.
They want you to have children, and they want you to do it before you’re ready. They want you to be barely surviving so you can’t afford to switch jobs or take time off. They want you too powerless to have any leverage over your
owneremployer.
Pro-lifers do not care a single bit
How is this a meme?
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Ikr? Lemmy is 99% stuff like this, when really all i want to do on here is laugh
Yes. It gets tiring. There aren’t even breaks in between “zomg! Look what trump and friends are doing! We are so much better” memes over and over and over and over.
It’s not and such content should be banned from memes. But Lemmy has nearly no moderation on validity of content. Tbh, I like Reddit a lot better in many ways except for the asshole admins. It has problems, but still lot better controlled than here.
Doesn’t not having sex do that a little better tho? Like i totally get the point, but also, having sex gives chance of baby right? So, don’t do it unless you ready? Maybe I’m wrong.
There are only two reasons any post-pubescent human isn’t having sex:
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They can’t find anyone to fuck them.
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They’re legitimately asexual. (A rare thing. And no lemmy, just because you’re not getting laid doesn’t make you “asexual”.)
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Sex is a basic human need. Having a child isn’t. You need to know you are compatible with your partner sexually or it will lead to tons of strife in a relationship. So not having sex unless you are asexual or a version of it isn’t an option.
Sex is a basic human need.
Humans do not die if they don’t have sex.
Humans also do not die when they are shackled and locked in a dark room for years or decades, as long as you feed them. How is you argument sounding now?
Still better than ignoring the millions of people throughout history who haven’t had sex and lived long happy lives.
Almost sounds like it’s fine when people choose, but is a problem when people are forced. Odd
There are people who don’t choose but still are still fine.
If what you’re saying is true Tom Hanks would have died of lack of sex on that island.
Or I’d have died in the six years between going through puberty and having sex. Or the five years later on when I didn’t have sex but wanted to.
“People need sex” is borderline incel shit.
I can tell you’re just going to need some months or years to think it over.
Not so funny.
One issue (and hear me out, I do support abortions, birth control and bodily autonomy!) is that, once given a choice when and how to reproduce, people don’t do it as much.
Having pleasure of sex without consequences is screwing the natural incentives for reproduction.
Whether we like it or not, there should be something to support fertility if we don’t want to end up in a population crisis, with a few young folks supporting the ever growing army of the elderly.
Now, this should NOT be laws prohibiting abortions, or banning any sort of contraception, but there should be some incentives for people to go, and, well, make babies. This part Republicans got right (wow), they screwed with the suggested methods.
Fixing the financial clusterfuck and letting people live in a bright and predictable world where they know their tomorrow will be good is certainly one way, but I’m afraid it’s not enough. What could be the other options? I’m interested in people’s opinions.
I’ll start worrying about the “population crisis” when there are no more orphans because they’ve all been adopted.
Those are unrelated, unfortunately.
An orphan, economically speaking, is still a productive member of society.
Of course, from the position of empathy, it is extremely sad people don’t commonly adopt children, and I would welcome everyone to do so - along with having their own. Adoption is important to give everyone a family and save them from the horrors of orphan life. New births are important to keep human population stable and the world continuously running.
As much as I want to only come from the empathetic “adopt first” (and I consider doing so myself in a not-so-distant future), we have to have other considerations as well if we don’t want to live in a dying world where everyone - from kids to seniors - faces insane, never-before-seen economic crisis, destroying life for everyone. It already gets worse, and we only dropped fertility a little. There are objective economic factors to this, not only capitalist greed (which, however, is also present).
What do you mean by population crisis?
In the world it’s the other way around, the demographics are still booming.
You know what came before having better birth control and lower birth rates in most developed countries, medicine and lower death rate. In most of them now both are pretty close (most because there are exceptions like Japan).
I’m not really sure i see a problem with a slight decrease in population in a place where there is already a lot of people.
Well, specifically women, but yes that sign is not wrong.
Well, specifically women
How do you figure?
…Are you being purposely obtuse?
…Are you being purposely obtuse?
Do you think an unwanted pregnancy doesn’t affect the biological father’s life in any way?
Well of course it does. But its statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision. That was my point.
statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision
what? I’m not even going to bother asking for a source. That is incorrect.
But its statistically significant that most abortions happen as a result of the potential babydaddy doing a blow-n-go and leaving the female with a hard decision
Source: this information came to you in a dream you had once
They know, that’s the point.
you forgot the funny part
Memes don’t have to be jokes
