• QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    tankies claim to be communists but spend all day parroting their favorite Russian or Chinese state propaganda

    Tell us how these “tankies” are “parroting” propaganda and we’ll tell you exactly how your geopolitical opinions align with the US State Dept.

    When did I say I agree with US propaganda?

    For starters, right here where you showed your whole ass and said: “If China is a socialist state worth supporting then I’m a donkey with a laser dick”

    You do seem to be quite a donkey but clearly it’s just overconfident false advertisement about the laser.

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      If China is so great then why does it feel the need to dictate over Hong Kong and Taiwan? Does China have gay marriage? Trans rights perhaps?

      I’m not saying China is as bad as the West claims it is. I’m just saying it’s not something to get wild about. It’s a nation state (a far too big one at that), which are by definition tools of oppression.

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        If China is so great then why does it feel the need to dictate over Hong Kong and Taiwan?

        It doesn’t. Taiwan and Hong Kong ARE China. If anything the high level of autonomy that China allows reactionary regional governments to have is what should be criticized.

        Does China have gay marriage? Trans rights perhaps?

        China allows for civil unions for LGBTQ. https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1162943.shtml It made civil unions legal across the nation before USA made gay marriage legal in every state. Like all places in the world (some more than others) China has a long way to go on LGBTQ rights. But that’s just it, China is improving along those lines, while the US is rapidly regressing. China is improving with trans rights and has been punishing companies that violate them. So yes, we should absolutely support China in continuing to move in the correct direction.

        It’s a nation state (a far too big one at that), which are by definition tools of oppression.

        Lol, by whose definition? A state is only as good or bad as the ruling class that wields it. A bourgeois (capitalist) state will always be oppressive. As a socialist state (and China is a socialist state), the CPC uses its power to suppress the constant attempts of the bourgeois to oppress the working class.

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          Taiwan and Hong Kong ARE China

          Imperialism much?

          China is improving along those lines, while the US is rapidly regressing

          That’s fair, but it’s once again an argument based entirely on comparing China to the US. The US being bad doesn’t make China good. To get back to my original argument, I’m just saying that the word ‘tankie’ refers to China or Russia simps. There is no nation in this world worth simping for.

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            Imperialism much?

            It is imperialism to let proxy governments for the UK and US maintain a colonial foothold in China actually.

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              So the Taiwanese all desperately want to join the DPRC? Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation. Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn’t magically make it okay

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                Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation.

                Please, check again picard

                Disputes about Taiwan’s sovereignty is the most famous fact about Taiwan. You are deeply unserious.

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                  Okay I may have worded that wrong but that is also misleading. China is a huge power (I say this is a problem as you may recall). Having diplomatic ties with China is necessary for most nations. China refuses to have diplomatic ties with anyone who recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. So, everybody pretends they don’t recognize it, officially. In reality Taiwan has its own government and isn’t ruled over by China. In 1991, Taiwan/ROC even recognized the DPRC.