• Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    30 days ago

    The mindset about privacy is just all wrong. It’s not an all or nothing game. Any privacy gain is a net positive to no privacy at all.

    To many people conflate privacy with anonymity or try “accomplish” privacy without understanding what they want to be private from and why.

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      30 days ago

      Exactly. Now to click the “copy text” button and keep your fine words handy for my next convo with a friend who thinks life with Facebook and Google is grand.

  • Badland9085@lemm.ee
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    29 days ago

    There’s worse.

    They already know everything about me anyways. If I can exchange my data for some free and easy to use service, I’m more than happy to give.

    I hate defeatism.

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      29 days ago

      Its not even defeatism, its willingly sacrificing themselves to the machine in hopes it will be merciful!

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        29 days ago

        True.

        And they’ll follow that up with a somewhat snarky comment that “You’ll be eliminated by the machines first.”

  • NaNin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    A lot of people have just accepted surviellance for convienience.

    People close to me get TSA precheck even though it requires fingerprinting, because “the government already has your fingerprints”

    But if they did, why would they need to ask your for them?

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      29 days ago

      Depending on what people do, the government already has their fingerprints.

      Personally, I work around schools so I had to get a background check and fingerprinted for that. I also am licensed to handle explosives, both federally and at the state level. I been fingerprinted for that. I’ve gone through TSA for hazmat endorsement on a commercial driver’s license. That needed fingerprints and a background check.

      Getting fingerprinted to get through airport security is the least of my privacy concerns.

      But my threat model isn’t the TSA. They aren’t a concern of mine, although I do opt out of their facial recognition.

      I am concerned with internet surveillance, corporate surveillance, and communication surveillance.

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        29 days ago

        When I got fingerprinted for my classified security clearance I told them that due to my psoriasis my fingerprints were blank due to the thickened skin. They said it didn’t matter so I have a set of blank prints in the fed files.

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      29 days ago

      Sorry for devil’s advocate here because I agree with you but hypothetically the answer would be verification. ie., Google already has your password, so why would they need to ask you for it when you log in?

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      29 days ago

      If you’ve gone to jail they totally have your prints already. Fingerprints are identifying information for such a thing. How else would they do that?

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        27 days ago

        Not everyone has gone to jail, but if the govt has your fingerprints it’s easier to get convicted regardless of your innocence.

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    29 days ago

    “My prehistoric brain can only think in ‘binary’ and doesn’t understand that development of a successful threat model doesn’t (and often can’t) be perfect, but any incremental change to my behavior and online practices in a way to prevent sensitive information from being shared and potentially utilized by malicious actors is a plus.

    Instead of thinking about all of that, I’m going to reduce the whole subject to a nice and neat logical fallacy of ‘online privacy is terrible nowadays, thus it doesn’t matter what I do’ “

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    28 days ago

    Ultimately, arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

    Edward Snowden

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    28 days ago

    Do you remember when it was commonly advised to use fake names and birthdays on online forms, and when “spyware” was a term?

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    29 days ago

    The claim to have “nothing to hide” was not just born our of ignorance, but also out of comfort - to not having to do anything about it.

    Now that even the last one accepted that they do indeed have something to hide, but in order to justify their own inaction, it’s labeled as inevitable: privacy is not real.

    They are lying to themselves, because doing otherwise would mean they have to admit being wrong.

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    30 days ago

    When they realized they DO actually have something to hide, they moved the goalposts to now say nothing is private online anyway.

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    30 days ago

    The one saying they use copilot for math problems is the worst part. It demonstrates their complete lack of critical thinking.

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      29 days ago

      Yes some subreddit is piviting hard captalism recently, giving up their dignity to defend corporations with their life.