however as a society we gotta listen to each other instead of just complaining. And a lot of young men have understandable issues with the Democrats. Especially, the constant talking point that “men are all assholes, even worse than bears”, and the like. That severely is something they understandably don’t want to hear. So they don’t vote Democrat (who are more notorious to these talking points).
Maybe one day as a society we will grow up and end the constant in-fighting.
A lot of young women have issues with the Democrats. Most Democratic voters have major issues with the Democrats. They kinda suck, especially as champions of marginalized groups. We still need to fight tooth and nail for everything because the party doesn’t want to piss off the wealthy.
If anything, we can bond over our shared frustration with the Democrats 🤝
You kinda swerved right around the real issue: class.
It’s not the democrats, it’s not other races, it’s not gender, it’s not anything that they use to drive a wedge between us. We are all the same and we’re all working class, being intentionally driven apart by issues created to do exactly that. If we can all fight together, we would win. No ifs or maybes about it. It’s their entire goal, to keep us fighting over the made up cultural divisions so we don’t unite under what truly keeps us all down and all disenfranchised.
Fuck all that they want us to think divides us and join together over what unites us: we’re all getting fucked by the ownership class and it’s time we took them down.
Exactly my point, but people have been conditioned against trigger words like class. I don’t hide that’s what I’m really saying, but I try to present the argument without activating their red scare brainwashing. I don’t even consider myself a Marxist more than I consider myself a liberal, yet it’s still difficult to avoid being branded as such. When they put you in a box, you can’t get through to them and have an honest conversation.
Capitalism is the problem, but the concept itself is loaded like a landmine. I find that trying to disarm or weaken that trap is necessary if you’re to ever get through. It isn’t fair. It isn’t logical. It’s just the reality we have to deal with.
i live in a city that overwhelmingly votes democrat. i’ve never heard anyone say anything close to “men are all assholes, even worse than bears” IRL. maybe people are saying these things behind my back and i just don’t know. more likely, this is an internet thing where somebody said it, it got amplified, and now people mistake that for reality.
it’s hard to say the internet’s not real anymore, but it’s easy to say that it’s a simulacra. step away from the online rage machine, talk to your neighbors.
You really missed the whole man vs bear thing? This is why young men are going alt right. No one is listening or talking to them. It’s possible you’re just stuck in echo chambers if you haven’t seen headlines about it. Kinda went viral a bit.
that’s sort of my point though? it’s a thing which went viral in a space that you occupy. you assume that space is broadly representative: it’s surprising for you to encounter a person who didn’t see the thing you saw. but the reality is that no matter how large your online space feels to you, it’s only ever single-digit percentages of the people actually around you.
it’s more obvious when i frame it this way: would your parents (grandparents, uncle, nephew, …) have a clue what “man vs bear” is about?
Saying it’s depressing is understandable,
however as a society we gotta listen to each other instead of just complaining. And a lot of young men have understandable issues with the Democrats. Especially, the constant talking point that “men are all assholes, even worse than bears”, and the like. That severely is something they understandably don’t want to hear. So they don’t vote Democrat (who are more notorious to these talking points).
Maybe one day as a society we will grow up and end the constant in-fighting.
A lot of young women have issues with the Democrats. Most Democratic voters have major issues with the Democrats. They kinda suck, especially as champions of marginalized groups. We still need to fight tooth and nail for everything because the party doesn’t want to piss off the wealthy.
If anything, we can bond over our shared frustration with the Democrats 🤝
You kinda swerved right around the real issue: class.
It’s not the democrats, it’s not other races, it’s not gender, it’s not anything that they use to drive a wedge between us. We are all the same and we’re all working class, being intentionally driven apart by issues created to do exactly that. If we can all fight together, we would win. No ifs or maybes about it. It’s their entire goal, to keep us fighting over the made up cultural divisions so we don’t unite under what truly keeps us all down and all disenfranchised.
Fuck all that they want us to think divides us and join together over what unites us: we’re all getting fucked by the ownership class and it’s time we took them down.
Exactly my point, but people have been conditioned against trigger words like class. I don’t hide that’s what I’m really saying, but I try to present the argument without activating their red scare brainwashing. I don’t even consider myself a Marxist more than I consider myself a liberal, yet it’s still difficult to avoid being branded as such. When they put you in a box, you can’t get through to them and have an honest conversation.
Capitalism is the problem, but the concept itself is loaded like a landmine. I find that trying to disarm or weaken that trap is necessary if you’re to ever get through. It isn’t fair. It isn’t logical. It’s just the reality we have to deal with.
i live in a city that overwhelmingly votes democrat. i’ve never heard anyone say anything close to “men are all assholes, even worse than bears” IRL. maybe people are saying these things behind my back and i just don’t know. more likely, this is an internet thing where somebody said it, it got amplified, and now people mistake that for reality.
it’s hard to say the internet’s not real anymore, but it’s easy to say that it’s a simulacra. step away from the online rage machine, talk to your neighbors.
You really missed the whole man vs bear thing? This is why young men are going alt right. No one is listening or talking to them. It’s possible you’re just stuck in echo chambers if you haven’t seen headlines about it. Kinda went viral a bit.
that’s sort of my point though? it’s a thing which went viral in a space that you occupy. you assume that space is broadly representative: it’s surprising for you to encounter a person who didn’t see the thing you saw. but the reality is that no matter how large your online space feels to you, it’s only ever single-digit percentages of the people actually around you.
it’s more obvious when i frame it this way: would your parents (grandparents, uncle, nephew, …) have a clue what “man vs bear” is about?