This instance has defederated from hexbear.net for violating our rules against propaganda as outlined in our Terms of Service. If you are unfamiliar, federation means two servers sync and host each other’s content. Defederation stops us from syncing their content to our server.

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    2 months ago

    Yes it was and its misapplication in targeting the same group repeatedly is laying bare its flaws and that’s why it doesn’t work

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      Hexbear is still online and available to anyone who wants to read the content so I’m confused as to what point you’re trying to make. If you want users to be forced to interact with other users that’s what Reddit is for.

      • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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        defederation is creating bubbles with communities that have little to no activity & content and that’s going to drive away more people than any tankie ever could.

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          2 months ago

          Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

          Perhaps most groups don’t want to associate with fascist apologists.

          • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

            how so?

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              There is a common debate on free speech in the US over of a platform should be punished for enforcing decorum on their users. Typically, it comes from the far right MAGA crowd griping when places kick them off for doing far right MAGA things, posting hateful content and persistently attacking anyone outside their bubble.

              Hexbear is the tankie equivalent of something like ‘truth social’ or ‘gab’ who welcomes their type of extremists.

              An individuals right to free speech does NOT meant an instance admin is compelled to amplify their message and help propagate it. This was argued over on every social media platform already and the only one to unban the extremists they banned in any quantity was after Elon took over Twitter.

              Reap what you sow…

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            Literally how it was designed! I will never understand the people who think “free speech” means everyone else has to be forced to listen to them.

            • Luci@lemmy.ca
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              2 months ago

              I want problem communities to be isolated from the larger population

              • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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                defederation doesn’t do this. it was mean to; but it doesn’t work as it was intended.

                doing so only excludes your community from the main group chat that everyone else can see, which empowers them over you in addition to creating those inactive/no-content subs for your community.

                so nothing about this situation is working as designed.

                and to answer your other glib comment: star trek matters to me so i don’t want to see this instance wither away from lack of content. that’s why i’m trying despite the toxic attempts to shoot the messenger.

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                    In another 10 to 15 years there’ll be yet another user schism when LemmyTM gets legal control over openLemmy and the commercially induced enshittificattion creates yet another user base diaspora onto yet another tankie invented social network safe space and; just like our gayborhoods; the user base gentrification will price us both out and we’ll both likely join the ranks of that diaspora.

                    I think obstinacy is going to remain in season until the election and witnessing it all happen all over again is tiring and I now I think I understand how liberals feel about tankies not voting for Kamala no matter how much you try to warn them and now it stings because we’re trekies; we’re better than this!!!

                    You can’t beat the beat the tankies; they’re like roaches of the capitalist system; they will outlive all of us. Every single time you kick them out of the safe space that they created for themselves it turns into shit and your willful ignorance makes everyone do this userbase migration all over again and that’s goes for both the lemmyverse and the election!

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      If that same group would stop repeatedly evading bans and defeds then it wouldn’t keep happening, but since tankies’ entire existence is predicated on proselytizing to unwilling “heretics” and being as rude as they possibly can while doing it because, like the mormons, it isn’t about actually getting converts it’s about getting people to hate them so they can feed their persecution complex, here we are.