• sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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    28 days ago

    I’m sorry but I don’t think its that crazy to want your employees to communicate with you outside of working hours.

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      28 days ago

      If you expect them to be available outside of working hours, the hours they’re available should be paid, and therefore are working hours.

      There is no communication necessary for work that cannot take place during working hours. What you’re actually arguing for is free labor.

      • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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        28 days ago

        No, sometimes you just need to tell an employee something, and then have them verify they understand the information. In my opinion that does not qualify as work.

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          28 days ago

          Is the something you need to tell them related to work?

          And is the verification you reference something you expect them to provide as an employee?

          I should hope you are able to make the connection without having your hand held further.

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            28 days ago

            on the off chance they’re…not…

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            That’s work. and all work must legally be compensated for.

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          28 days ago

          If your boss can’t figure that shit out during working hours they need to get their shit straight.

          I’m not going to be on call for zero compensation because you’re scatterbrained, inept or understaffed

          • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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            28 days ago

            Because everything important happens during every employees working hours, and it is inconceivable that a plan could change for any reason while you aren’t clocked in.

            If you want work to get done you have to be coordinated. Just text back, its not that fucking hard.

            I would agree that your boss shouldn’t expect you to answer at all hours of the day or even remotely quickly, but if you literally never answer anything then I have very little sympathy for you when you get fired.

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              28 days ago

              If my response to you can’t wait for my next normal working hour, then that means I will have to carry my work communication device with me when I leave work and I will not be able to travel anywhere that puts me away from whatever communication type that you require for longer than the duration that you are willing to wait. This type of restriction has a term for it, it is referred to as being “on-call”. Employees deserve to be compensated for being on-call. If your business requires your employees to be on-call, but you don’t compensate them, then I have very little sympathy for you when you get sued or fined.

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                28 days ago

                I think there is a difference between being on call and being expected to text your boss sometimes. You could literally just check your phone once a day at the same time and it would be fine. Maybe they should throw you a dime for that few seconds of grueling labor, but I don’t really give a shit.

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                  We are not slaves, we have a right to be be paid for our time. You are the one that set the rules. You, people like you, all these business people and “job creators”. The days of employees working an entire career at one company and retiring with a pension are dead. You and your ilk killed it. Employees are just cost centers. Constant growth and profit are all that matters. Layoffs, soft layoffs, invisible layoffs, hiring freezes, attrition, trimming the fat, split shifts, workforce reduction, voluntary separation packages, contract positions… these aren’t personal, they are just business. A companies interaction with its employee is a business transaction governed by contracts, employee handbooks, and labor laws. They specify the number of days I am allowed to be sick in a given year and even limit the number of days we are allowed to be sick at one time. And after all of that you want to talk loyalty and sacrifice?

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                    27 days ago

                    Well, maybe you should go fix those problems. You know, instead of whining that you have to look at your phone occasionally when you already spend your precious time arguing with me on Lemmy.

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              There shouldn’t be anything that requires the employee not be informed the next working day. If it’s such an emergency you can’t wait then you should call your doctor not your employee.

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          If it doesn’t qualify as work then they can refuse. Maybe they don’t want to communicate with you outside the job and you have no right to force it.

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      28 days ago

      Oh friend, that’s because you’re a moron. A lot of managers are, you’re a perfect example of that right now 😮‍💨

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      28 days ago

      It’s impossible for everyone in society to be smart. Sorry for your luck, friend.