I know this is probably fake, but, I’ve heard way too many horror stories about hr like this.
HR is there to protect the company from you. When you’re being harassed at work, during work hours, talking to HR is basically saying “I know I can turn this into a legal thing, but I’ll give you a chance to correct it before I do that”.
If HR laughs at you about a complaint, your next steps are to collect evidence and hire a lawyer.
Sue the shit out of them.
Get the evidence before going to HR because there’s more than a small chance they are going to laugh while escorting you out if the building.
I don’t think that’s legal to do, however, having the evidence before hand is a good idea regardless of the likelihood of being dismissed for making the complaint.
Evidence is always something you should have.
For sure and for me, i think the best way to think of it is if there was a department called “computer resource department.” No ones is going to convince themselves that its there for the benefit of the computers, as its clearly there to get as much profitability out of them as possible.
Like with any corpo, their priority is to the company. Mainly: increase profits, reduce risk, liability, and loss.
The job of HR is to apply those principles to the workforce. They work for the company against you, just like every other mindless, soulless, corpo in the building.
Exactly.
The number of times I had to correct colleagues that “HR is NOT your union”
Isn’t that just IT?
That would be closer to a doctor department for humans no?
How do you even collect evidence of something that happened momentarily?
Had some woman full-on grab my male arse in my old job when I was bent over doing a task. My colleague (female) saw it and marched after her letting her know that wasnt acceptable. Another member of staff kept constantly going on about my bike shorts and legs and everything inbetween… she was about 20 years older than me.
People here say this green text is fake. It may well be, but from experience it also may not.
I mean, I think it’s fake because it’s a green text, but this shit definitely does happen.
Presuming it wasn’t creative fiction, document and enjoy the huge pile of money from the lawsuit.
And then get laughed at by your lawyer, the judge, and the jury.
Stay poor, doomer, anon’s got some HR hoes to farm for a slam dunk sexual discrimination and hostile work environment case.
Plus, as a bonus, people will listen to him because he’s a man.
Historically, this is one of those things that get ignored when men come forward, but if can prove it now, it’s an easy case.
sexual discrimination
Sexism?
no, sexual discrimination is illegal, sexism is not.
That only happens in your imagination. Court is definitely not as sexist.
And if they are, you can sue them as well for even more money!
US courts are absolutely sexist. They are so damn sexist that the sexual disparity in sentences completely nullifies the racist disparity. I’m not joking either. It is well known that all things being equal, a black woman will get an average of 60% of the sentence a white man will get for the same crime. Meanwhile a white woman will get, on average, a sentence that is roughly 60-70% of what the black woman gets, and the white man may get a mere 50% of the punishment a black man gets.
Court is both racist and sexist, and in the US they won’t allow you to sue them. The sexism and racism only gets more pronounced in civil court and family court.
Good luck in today’s ultra conservative Supreme Court.
Why do you assume I’m American?
As far as I know, the only American is me.
What do you know, you really are American.
How fucking big did this dudes arms get in one year? I’m calling bullshit.
If this is actually real I would suggest using interpersonal relationship skills and ask these hordes of women to stop touching your biceps yourself. Given that anon is a green texter, he may be lacking in this department.
Lol I’m not saying this is definitely real, but it’s completely plausible that an otherwise socially competent person freezes up when someone grabs them wantonly and unwantedly. And I fully belive that someone who would do that in the first place would also not stop when they’re told no.
You’re both skipping over consent; if the genders were reversed, would you consider it normal for men to touch women however they want until they’re told to stop?
I responded to the person above me implying that OP should end the grabbing with interpersonal skills alone. Obviously no one should be grabbed without consent in the first place.
Paraphrasing the person you responded to: “Don’t talk to HR/sue, use your interpersonal skills to stop the problem” You: “Could be that anon is too socially inept to say something”
Your response makes sense in context, all I’m saying is keep your eye on the ball; the actual problem here is consent and so if these hypothetical women are breaking it they should feel the consequences like men would.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure
Pretty victim blamey, NGL. Norms should be in place to ask for consent (tacit or explicit) before giving someone else
Yes and we should also require chaperones on dates as well. No sex out of wedlock either.
Dude got his bicep grabbed and went to HR instead of telling the person. This is beyond stupid.
Should a woman “just tell everyone she doesn’t like it” if random people start grabbing her?
First of all, unless this dude works at a strip club, I very highly doubt random coworkers are coming up and grabbing his biceps.
I would buy this story more if it was a single female who continued to do this, but this just doesn’t add up.
Secondly, if a woman’s biceps were being grabbed by a man, I’d have no idea what the fuck was going on.
This story is fake as shit and ya’ll are treating it like it’s a case study.
No, we just treat it at face value, knowing little of the real situation.
And reality is, men ARE abused and harrassed by women, and it’s much harder for them to speak out about it. Which makes it even more important not to distrust these stories straight from the start - they get their dose of distrust and victimblaming everywhere else.
Okay buddy. Time to go have your afternoon tea and have a nap.
You’re assuming that they didn’t tell that person to not touch them. They didn’t mention it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
There’s not enough information from the OP to have reasonable knowledge of the events to say either way.
You used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
It is on 4chan, so there’s an approximately 99% chance it’s completely made up, and the poster can barely lift his keyboard.
50/50 chance between normal keyboard and no arm muscles whatsoever and normal arm muscles and the thickest, full metal mechanical keyboard you’ve ever seen.
It’s wild how we all forgot ON DAY ONE what the whole point of 4chan was, which was that since there is no barrier to entry, no identity, then you as the viewer are supposed to wonder what’s real or not, but always have to assume anything said is false, even if it’s tantalizing. It’s a game, you’re not supposed to take anything seriously there… and yet the place has impacted international politics repeatedly.
Discuss as if real, react as if fake
Idk they do have all the /fit/ rogan bros and no social skills meaning nothing but time for gains, sigma alphas and whatnot. Could be tbh.
My one average coworker got a good routine going between Christmas and Easter and by the time I ran into him in the summer he was a shithouse
Shithouse? Meaning he let himself go and got fat & flabby again?
No as in the phrase “built like a brick shithouse”, implying very structurally strong, overbuilt for it’s purpose.
This really depends. I have seen people go from meh muscle build to pretty damn jacked after a year of hard work, and as much gear as they could find.
The story says more about the offenders than OP’s actual body. That question has “but what was she wearing” vibes.
Yeah, I wasn’t commenting on any of that. Regardless how dude looks, assuming it’s real, consent is absolute. Just pointing out that I have seen people get jacked in a year, if the right risks are taken and the hard work is put in.
I’m sure it’s somewhat genetically based (according to 23andme I have ‘elite athletic musculature’) but I’m close to maxed out after a year of serious natty weight lifting if my goal is to actually look fit. I could get further and go the power lifter route by eating 5 rotisseries chickens daily and washing them down with bean juice.
Oh yeah, agree, genetics does play a significant part. Just commenting that I have seen people go from a normal build to pretty built in that time if the right risks are taken.
I’m actually glad the company I work for not only takes sexual harassment seriously, but they actually use primarily examples of female perpetrators and male victims to emphasize the point that it can happen to anyone.
I would think this false but my ex MIL (my kids grandma) does do that to my husband (who doesn’t care). I can’t imagine touching anyone at work without explicit permission and probably not even then. It seems so messed up.
Bro fuck you for that fly
Why would you brag to HR of all people?
Because HR exists to avoid the company getting sued, and OP could potentially sue. If this was real.
You missed the joke
Well, it was a bad joke
Fuck the joke.
So edgy
Do you even lift, bro? These pythons are aculpted pieces of art!
Did he want men to grab his biceps? Or just no touchy?
I read it as he wanted the opportunity to consent
Yeah polite ones usually ask first
HR not gonna like the tittygrab HR is usually feminist
I like being grabbed by females no matter how fat or aggressive as long as they aren’t married so I’m not too worried. I’m just playing devil’s advocate
“females” 🤢
You’re right I like getting grabbed by they/THEMS! hahaha… you guys make it too easy…
Loser
You’re damn right
I like your energy, but no, stop it, get some help.
Okay, chocolate and salt do go well together
Do u want to touch my biceps
And we still wonder why women pick the bear…
They pick the bear because some guy on Lemmy said that if a woman groped him without his permission he’d grope her without hers?
What I’m reading into this is that you think a woman groping a man without his permission is a lesser violation than a man doing the same to a woman.
Who’s still wondering
This guy gets it.
Careful brother, the internet is fragile when it comes to these type of comments. A lot of people without girlfriends and wives will come out in troves to fight against such displays.
Behind this screen and keyboard, IM A STRAIGHT UP TIT GRABBING KILLER 😎
I do the same thing when a girl accidentally steps on my shoe
Lies.
It’s really not uncommon, women can ignore your bounderies too and when they do they are usually especially overt about it because they often don’t realize they are doing anything wrong. A lot of my friends are body builders and it 100% happens. Every single one of them has been touched without their consent
Not necessarily, i have a very buff friend and it happens to him all the time, especially when we go to the pub
Exact same thing happened to me. Only there was no HR to do nothing.