• collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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    22 hours ago

    The lack of omnipotence is tautological. Can a theorized seity make a rock so heavy, the deity cannot move it? If he cannot make it, he is not imnipotent. If he makes one he cannot move, then he is not omnipotent. Adding qualifications about logical consistent omnipotence is just dissembling and lame excuse making.

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t know if I would view this as tautological. I think the premise that whipping out a latin phrase based upon an arbitrary determination that whoever speaks now has to provide proof - now placing the burden on any opposition - is just avoiding a good faith argument entirely. Refusal to qualify a statement with objective fact and reason. We already experience the results of this shitty logic in social media spaces where anyone can spew objectively false statements and the burden of disproving it falls on critics. Sealioning and butwhataboutism follow, while the original speaker avoids ceding anything.

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        5 hours ago

        Whipping out Latin phrases is such a religious peepo thing. They eat that shit up without getting the message. It wouldn’t be so tragic if the Latin phrase weren’t an idea central to science being completely misunderstood. lol

        E: Need to clarify that the Burden of Proof itself isn’t central to science, but its relationship to hypotheses testing is.

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      14 hours ago

      I like that the answer, as far as I know growing up in a Catholic school, is that religious people are aware of this argument, but they think they have a foolproof answer that boils down to: “whoah, what a mysterious dude.”