• LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Right? All they had to do was promise to Legalize weed, increase the minimum wage, put caps on rent increases, go after shrinkflation, make it easier to vote, say that healthcare is a human right, fight for unions, promise to help support people who currently can’t afford to buy homes to be able to buy homes, and tax the rich and corporations more.

    Oh wait, Harris did all of those things. Democrats have had progressive policy, but voters keep voting against it. Because Democrats have to be perfect and cant also happen to have a couple shit policies. The moment they have a couple shitty policies, or don’t have all the progressive policies people want. those are all that matter and that means Democrats are just the same as Republicans.

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      The problem is they’ve been promising that for two decades.

      They’re great at saying things, sometimes, to specific outlet while saying the opposite to their donors and other outlets. But they’re terrible at doing anything. At all. After decades of lies, after decades of trying to push them left… The Harris campaign paid partial lip service and promised what Obama did in 2008.

      Also no, Dems are the same as Republicans because their goals, based on their actions and voting records, are exactly the same. Make rich people more rich, bust unions, keep the poor poor.

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        2 days ago

        I was with you until you went all “both sides”. Dems fucking suck, they’re inauthentic, corrupt leaches, but the last 6 weeks alone ought to be plenty enough to prove that the repubs are whole other animal. These are officially Nazi’s we’re dealing with.

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          1 day ago

          And the Dems hold up tiny signs in protest rather than actually do anything

          The Dems don’t care and won’t fight so they’re functionally the same

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            By that logic, what are you? The same? I don’t know you but you sure as fuck ain’t Luigi. What makes your tiny actions so much greater than a protesters?

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        2 days ago

        They’ve increased taxes in 2009 in response to the crash, they’ve done investment in infrastructure. They’ve passed the first climate change legislation ever in this country. They increased the minimum wage in 2009 and tried to again. They did actual shit for the 4 years of the last 2 decades they’ve had full power to do anything. But then voters vote them out because they don’t do everything they intended to.

        They need do more, but they need full power to do that. Whenever they get that they do shit. But it’s impossible to do shit when Republicans control one house of Congress kneecapping everything they want to do.

        Also they are incredibly different. One of them wants to increase the minimum wage, the other wants to get rid of it. One of them wants to make sure queer folk are allowed to exist in public and have rights, the other wants to put us in prison and take away our right to exist at all. One of them wants to bust monopolies and the other wants more monopolies. One of them wants to increase social safety net benefits, the other wants to get rid of it. One of them wants to tax the rich, the other wants no federal income tax at all. One of them believes that voting should be easy and the other wants to make voting impossible.

        They’ve passed plenty of bills that end up dying because of Republicans, you’re blaming Democrats for Republicans being the problem and saying they’re the same. You’re being reductive because they happen to both be capitalist parties, which sucks ass but there’s a lot of space in the capitalist spectrum.

        Listen, there’s nothing wrong with wanting Democrats to do better. But it’s BS to say they haven’t done anything positive in the last 20 years. 20 years where they only actually had full power for 4 of those years and 2 of those years only barely had a majority in the Senate.

        Edit: also most of what I said Harris campaigned on has not been promised for 2 decades. She campaigned on policies that the party hadn’t supported on the presidential level before. The only democratic presidential nominee to campaign on legalizing weed was Harris. The only one to campaign on a unrealized gains tax was Harris. The only one to campaign on the down payment assistance was Harris. Biden talked about increasing the minimum wage too but that was 4 years ago so not over the last 20 years.