• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    Nobody in their right mind will spend energy to manufacture a gas and then let 10% of it leak out unused.

    it’s all a sham anyway. no one in their right mind will build an infrastructure reliant on cryogenically chilled liquid hydrogen, we can barely manage gasoline without fuel and oil getting everywhere, now we need to keep it supercold and pressurize the delivery?

    have you seen gas stations? keep in mind, Lockheed had to develop spark proof switches and electrical systems, spark proof tools, all kinds of special equipment when they experimented with hydrogen powered aircraft and scrapped it because the fuel was too low density and too difficult to work with on large scales.

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      I mostly agree. I have seen a local hydrogen gas station and they had to invest a lot in safety measures.

      I don’t see hydrogen as a viable street transport fuel.

      However, I think it could be a viable stationary turbine or ship fuel, and a viable ingredient for synthesized methane or synthesized alcohols (provided that a cheap input of CO2 or CO is available).

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        I have seen a local hydrogen gas station and they had to invest a lot in safety measures.

        Cali, norway, japan or south korea?

        However, I think it could be a viable stationary turbine or ship fuel, and a viable ingredient for synthesized methane or synthesized alcohols (provided that a cheap input of CO2 or CO is available).

        this is feasible. I’ve also seen ammonia suggested as an intermediary, but think we need the full court press of possible options for heavy lift operations like this. We’re seeing a whipsaw in temps because of our move from sulfate rich heavy fuel oils, but keeping this shit out of the atmosphere needs to maintain a priority. try everything for fuck’s sake, there’s gotta be something better.

        also sea ops have the advantage of distilling hydrogen from seawater instead of *‘blue hydrogen’ barfff

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          Cali, norway, japan or south korea?

          Estonia. And it’s probably the only one in the capital, with two more in the country. Nothing serious so far, folks are just experimenting a little. There’s supposedly a fuel cell powered self-driving minibus somewhere, but I haven’t seen it.