I just had my first experience blocking an instance, and it made my realize now nice the lemmy content curation experience is vs the centralized model.

Recently I started noticing a lot of posts from that I just found annoying. There was nothing inherently wrong with them, they just came from a culture I don’t understand and so I found them cringey. Since they all came from one community, realized most of them come from the same instance. I just added that instance to my blocklist and the problem is solved!

Now think about in the centralized model. I would be forced to either just accept that these posts are in my timeline, or block each community and user individually. The instance gave me an easy way to manage my content.

I also appreciate that instances can manage the blocking for their users. So the most horrible stuff I don’t even see. But it also preserves free speech, as those users who want to say horrible things can do so in their own instance, and most people will just block it.

Anyway, just impressed again by the fediverse!

        • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
          341·
          27 days ago

          I trust in the power of people to self-organize, self-regulate, and self-police.

          Isn’t someone deciding they don’t like an instance’s content and blocking it themselves exactly what you’re describing?

        • atomicpoet@kbin.earth
          16·
          27 days ago

          What if I told you anyone can run their own server and consequently have the freedom to federate with who they wish?

          The value of the Fediverse isn’t just freedom of speech. It’s freedom of association.

            • atomicpoet@kbin.earth
              151·
              27 days ago

              Well, you seem to be upset that people are able to block entire instances. That’s just a weird stance for an anarchist to have.

                • atomicpoet@kbin.earth
                  11·
                  27 days ago

                  On the Fediverse, no admin decides anything a user does. If you don’t like your server, you can just walk over to another one. Most software even makes account migration between servers super easy.

                  Or if you don’t trust admins at all—and I don’t—you can run your own server and federate with who you please.

                  This is not Reddit. Admins don’t hold ultimate power of what does or does not get seen. However, you do—and you can mute, block, or defederate as you see fit.

                • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  4·
                  27 days ago

                  because it shuts out everyone on that instance.

                  But it doesn’t. Unless they’ve changed the functionality in the last 3 major revisions or so, a user blocking an instance blocks all posts from that instance. Not the users or their comments on other posts.

                  It’s an easier way than blocking each community from that instance individually.

        • underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          10·
          27 days ago

          I generally prefer to federate with as many communities as possible, but federating with fascists is a terrible idea. You’re just making people in your community vulnerable to harassment.

          People are self organizing onto these instances, and if they don’t like their current one it’s not hard to move. Most people won’t move to one that allows nazis in.

            • underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              81·
              27 days ago

              Fascist ideas don’t spread because they make good points. They spread because they get repeated so much. People who don’t know any better believe it because they’ve heard it so many times, or from someone they trust. Federating with fascists gives them more people to spread their ideas to.

              Talking to conservatives can definitely help, but it really depends on the context. Just having people who they disagree with in their lives can can be helpful. If you’re someone they trust you might get them to work through some things. Or if you know a topic really well and know what talking points they’re likely to bring up. But it’s nearly impossible to get though to people who already hate you.

              Everyone is at a different place with what they want to handle. Some people just want a small friendly community where they have a chance to relax. Others want a more open communities that only keep out the worst. And some are okay with putting up with harassment to reach more people. But generally we shouldn’t force others to put up with that harassment along with us.

        • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          81·
          27 days ago

          You see, I’m an anarchist. I trust in the power of people to self-organize, self-regulate, and self-police. I am philosophically opposed to whole instances making the call to defederate from another no matter how Nazi or capitalist that instance is.

          That’s great, but it’s not for everyone. What you’re saying here is that when bigots appear, every member of the minorities they target needs to individually block the troll, which they can only do after they’ve been exposed to the bigotry, and which doesn’t help them at all in the future when the troll moves to a new throw away account.

          Counter intuitively, what you’re asking for is exactly how you create spaces that actively discourage diversity.

        • Fitik@fedia.io
          6·
          27 days ago

          That’s interesting, I assumed so because:

          1. It’s known, that some Hexbear users create alt accounts on other Lemmy instances, because they’re mostly defederated to “spread their message”
          2. Your account is pretty new
          3. Because you’re against the defederation, I assumed that it’s because you have came from an instance that gets defederated often

          But seems like your opinion actually something consistent and not trolling, in that case I respect your opinion, even if I personally don’t agree with your philosophy I can understand it. It’s good that in the Fediverse you can choose an instance that aligns with your philosophy (Like lemm.ee) and I can choose the one that aligns with mine.

    • atomicpoet@kbin.earth
      2710·
      27 days ago

      No one is entitled to attention, and sometimes people need to take a breather for their own mental health.

        • atomicpoet@kbin.earth
          221·
          27 days ago

          That’s the same talking points the alt-right uses and we don’t tolerate it.

          And I’ve been on the Internet long enough to watch so-called “progressive” spaces get hijacked by the right wing under the guise of “free speech”.

          When a culture grows toxic, it’s simply toxic no matter their talking points.

          So the fact people have the power to block entire instances at their discretion, this is a good thing.

          You are not entitled to my attention, nor am I entitled to yours.

          • Paulo Laureano@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.meEnglish
            1·
            27 days ago

            I do not think it’s a good idea to isolate people in cults in their own echo chambers… although my faith in humanity and basic decency has seen better days, I still believe good examples matter.

            • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              6·
              27 days ago

              A user blocking an instance does not block the users from that instance from interacting with the user who blocked.

              It’s not well explained, but my understanding is that an instance block just prevents communities from that instance, and posts made by users on thay instance, from showing for the user that blocked the instance. Comments from users of that instance still show for the blocking user, and the block is one way anyway.

          • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            6·
            26 days ago

            Folks like you and the hundred other people also “just asking questions” or playing devils advocate" and expecting trans people to engage in a debate as to whether or not we actually deserve equal rights is exactly why this shit never works.

            It’s interesting to you because it’s purely intellectual. To the person having to endlessly argue that they do in fact deserve equal rights, it’s a shit fucking experience that we actively seek to disengage from when possible, because it’s all around us, all the time.

              • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                3·
                26 days ago

                The first half of your post is you talking about trauma you’ve received from other people, telling you that you’re wrong/evil/broken/perverted etc.

                The second half of your post is explaining how you think it’s ok for you to do the same thing to others, because you do it “for the right reasons”

                When you confront a bigot with transphobia pushed to the extreme, what you do is add to the trauma that every trans person already has to deal with daily. You don’t magically convert someone from bigotry. Bigots aren’t bigots because they reasons their way in to bigotry, and so you can’t stop them from being bigots by reasoning them out of it.

                  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                    1·
                    25 days ago

                    I’m sorry it played out that way for you, but even so, what you’re advocating for hurts people too. Even if that’s not your intention, it still does, and I think that’s something that should be part of your consideration when approaching this topic.

                    I’m sorry it hurt you, but I’m not going to ignore stuff that hurts my community

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      27 days ago

      What? what does this even mean, is there an instance dedicated for victims of fascism or something?

      That seems like a huge leap. Who knows they might just be blocking an instance that only speaks a language they don’t understand.