Bilbo was 111, and Frodo was 33 during the birthday party when Bilbo left the Shire.
Only 17 years later, when he’s 50, does Frodo go off on the Quest to destroy the ring.
I’m making my way through the books right now and I haven’t seen the films in ages, but if I recall correctly it’s much less clear in those that there was a time skip. Which yea if I were adapting a book I’d also skip the bit where JRRT says “and then nothing of importance happened for 17 years, apart from the fact Gandalf was travelling to do research about the ring and kinda went missing recently”.
That’s all very fascinating, and thank you for clarifying that for everything.
But I need you to shut your lying mouth with that 17 years nonsense. I am 33. I am in way 17 years from 50 years old. Shut up. Shut up and stop talking your heinous lies.
Man, I’m 17 years older than you. It ain’t that different.
You know, other than the aching joints, the gray hairs sprouting, having a strange urge to yell at anyone that steps on your grass (even if you don’t have grass), and a growing certainty that the newest generation are inherently crazy.
I’m not far behind you, I don’t think the younger generation are crazy at all.
When we were young we wanted shit the Olds considered mad, it was actually worse during the cold War, there were things you couldn’t talk about.
Boomers were epic assholes though, and dumb as fuck, so maybe that biases me, the Youngs just seem adorable in their unbelievable passion for shit that vague barely seems to matter. Everybody needs a hobby.
that part was meant as a joke about old farts always saying the next generation is worse than their own.
Tbh, no single generation is free of assholes, nor is any free of good people. That’s because people are assholes for the most part, and every generation has people that aren’t :)
But, yeah, the amount of energy pumped into very niche things seems to be unusually high for kids currently. It never ceases to make me happy though.
Well, no promises. 51 could be the top of the hill everyone says you get over, I dunno yet ;)
No bullshit though, even with the bad things that I went through in my late thirties and early forties, the age part of my forties was awesome. It’s this wonderful balance of being automatically assumed to be a grown ass adult in any given situation until you prove otherwise, but also being allowed to indulge in hobbies without attention.
And, for me, that’s when I hit peak confidence and self awareness.
But, I’m enjoying the hell out of fifty so far. It’s like I hit a half century, and a lot of the bullshit of the world doesn’t bother me as much. Something comes up, and my first thought is “well, after a half century of this kind of bullshit, this is nothing”. It’s like magic lol.
People getting all out of shape about the age of the hobbits whereas Gandalf was created at the beginning of time, which is much older than 2019 years old. That’s likely the age of his current physical manifestation, but his spirit is truly ancient.
The Universe in Middle earth is about 55,000 years old, but that’s stated to be created after creation, so Gandalf was created before that.
Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth in the year 1000 of the Third Age. So he’s been around in that form for about 2000 years since Bilbo’s farewell party took place in the 3001st year of the Third Age. The Fellowship was founded in 3018 so Gandalf is about that old if we’re only counting his time in Middle Earth like you say
Edit: This is in part why people are upset with the Rings of Power show. If this not-Gandalf character ends up being Gandalf, he’ll have arrived in Middle Earth about 3000 years too early. On top of that there are just a lot of other timeline deviations, including the order of the forging of the rings which you would imagine the whole show to be about.
Bilbo was 111, and Frodo was 33 during the birthday party when Bilbo left the Shire.
Only 17 years later, when he’s 50, does Frodo go off on the Quest to destroy the ring.
I’m making my way through the books right now and I haven’t seen the films in ages, but if I recall correctly it’s much less clear in those that there was a time skip. Which yea if I were adapting a book I’d also skip the bit where JRRT says “and then nothing of importance happened for 17 years, apart from the fact Gandalf was travelling to do research about the ring and kinda went missing recently”.
That’s all very fascinating, and thank you for clarifying that for everything.
But I need you to shut your lying mouth with that 17 years nonsense. I am 33. I am in way 17 years from 50 years old. Shut up. Shut up and stop talking your heinous lies.
i apologise, would this gift make up for my transgression?
🫴💍
It’s a start!
Man, I’m 17 years older than you. It ain’t that different.
You know, other than the aching joints, the gray hairs sprouting, having a strange urge to yell at anyone that steps on your grass (even if you don’t have grass), and a growing certainty that the newest generation are inherently crazy.
But other than that, it’s exactly the same as 33.
WHAT!?
I’m not far behind you, I don’t think the younger generation are crazy at all.
When we were young we wanted shit the Olds considered mad, it was actually worse during the cold War, there were things you couldn’t talk about.
Boomers were epic assholes though, and dumb as fuck, so maybe that biases me, the Youngs just seem adorable in their unbelievable passion for shit that vague barely seems to matter. Everybody needs a hobby.
that part was meant as a joke about old farts always saying the next generation is worse than their own.
Tbh, no single generation is free of assholes, nor is any free of good people. That’s because people are assholes for the most part, and every generation has people that aren’t :)
But, yeah, the amount of energy pumped into very niche things seems to be unusually high for kids currently. It never ceases to make me happy though.
“My generation will put it right” Land of Confusion, Genesis.
Yeah, right😒
The fuck does that even mean?
Listen that song (https://youtu.be/TlBIa8z_Mts). Or read the lyrics.
No, I know the song, I was alive when it came out.
I just don’t know what it has to do with what I said
Good to hear that the early 40s are not that bad. I’m 31 now and that ensures me I have at least 20 more good years.
Well, no promises. 51 could be the top of the hill everyone says you get over, I dunno yet ;)
No bullshit though, even with the bad things that I went through in my late thirties and early forties, the age part of my forties was awesome. It’s this wonderful balance of being automatically assumed to be a grown ass adult in any given situation until you prove otherwise, but also being allowed to indulge in hobbies without attention.
And, for me, that’s when I hit peak confidence and self awareness.
But, I’m enjoying the hell out of fifty so far. It’s like I hit a half century, and a lot of the bullshit of the world doesn’t bother me as much. Something comes up, and my first thought is “well, after a half century of this kind of bullshit, this is nothing”. It’s like magic lol.
People getting all out of shape about the age of the hobbits whereas Gandalf was created at the beginning of time, which is much older than 2019 years old. That’s likely the age of his current physical manifestation, but his spirit is truly ancient.
The Universe in Middle earth is about 55,000 years old, but that’s stated to be created after creation, so Gandalf was created before that.
Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth in the year 1000 of the Third Age. So he’s been around in that form for about 2000 years since Bilbo’s farewell party took place in the 3001st year of the Third Age. The Fellowship was founded in 3018 so Gandalf is about that old if we’re only counting his time in Middle Earth like you say
Edit: This is in part why people are upset with the Rings of Power show. If this not-Gandalf character ends up being Gandalf, he’ll have arrived in Middle Earth about 3000 years too early. On top of that there are just a lot of other timeline deviations, including the order of the forging of the rings which you would imagine the whole show to be about.