Anecdotal, but I have had bad experiences using Ubuntu. I know it’s not a bad distro, and that it contributes a lot (especially historically), but it’s the other distros that take their contributions and add to it that I find worth using or recommending, or sometimes an unrelated distro. It’s the sort of thing I might give money to, but I’ll never want to use directly.
I think this is what people mean when they say it’s bad - that distros that take what Ubuntu made and add their own touch seem more user friendly.
I was pretty neutral towards Ubuntu, up until an automatic system update removed my deb Firefox and replaced it with the snap version, even though I specifically set the apt repo to a higher priority.
The entire reason I left Windows is because I don’t want (for example) Edge shoved down my throat after every update, and yet Ubuntu has gone and done the exact same thing with snaps.
After literal hours of fighting, the only solution I found was to fully disable automatic updates. With Pop OS I have all the benefits of Ubuntu, but I also get a company (System76) that does cool stuff and doesn’t try shoving snaps down my throat.
Hey, you should be careful around Ubuntu fans. They might just snap.
*laugh track*
I don’t get why anybody uses Ubuntu. Just use Debian. It’s basically more stable and functional Ubuntu, but without snaps and you don’t need an entire distro branch for different DEs.
Because it’s a popular distro. Because when you look for “how to X in linux”, there’s a 90% chance the response will be about Ubuntu. Because your workplace said so. The list goes on.
Kubuntu is boring because it just works
Ubuntu in ~2015 was peak Linux (for me). Everything worked flawlessly with zero bugs, even printers. It’s been downhill ever since with the exception of Steam Proton, but even then I’ve had more bugs with Steam in the past couple years then I did in 2013.
Canonical wants to be Microsoft so goddamn bad they can taste it
archThe cool thing about Arch is that with some learning, time and effort, you can make it function just like Ubuntu
I don’t know if serious or burn
Careful with that XZ package
That behavior fucking sucks actually
I can’t tell if this in-fighting on Linux flavors is in good humor or just snobby opinions.
I think it’s just elitism. The worst example is Chris Titus making a video where he explains why you shouldn’t use Ubuntu. And then proceeds to make video explaining how it’s not actually that bad and he uses it with a different DE.
But now 300K people saw that Ubuntu bad for stupid reasons, from a “reputable” source.
I’ve been using it for many years and I have no idea who Chris Titus is.
There’s no reason to use Ubuntu over Debian, especially since Bookworm included non-free firmware in installation media by default.I think you’re far too gone if you genuinely believe there’s no need for Ubuntu.
Ubuntu has its own kernel, they have a security team making patches specifically for Ubuntu, there’s a tool that detects any drivers your device needs and downloads them for you, and their GNOME implementation is the best I’ve seen. I also like the new software centre in 24.04, displaying both apt and snap packages when you search for them, really fast.
And yes I know, you will tell me that you can replicate all of this on Debian. And you can replicate basically everything Debian can do on RHEL. So there’s no need for Debian. Ans there’s no need for RHEL since…
If there really was no point in using Ubuntu, people wouldn’t use it. And yes this applies to Windows as well. Users aren’t braindead idiots. If there is a much better alternative that suits their needs they will use that instead.
Edit: Also free 10 year support for non-commercial use.
Debian has its own kernel, and security team, in fact as Ubuntu is downstream of Debian they get the full benefit of Debian’s security patches (yes Canonical maintains their own kernel, but the vast majority of other packages are pulled from Debian’s repositories), fwupd isn’t unique to Ubuntu, KDE has been combining update managers into Discover for ages, not everybody likes Gnome.
You’re saying “replicate” like these are all things Ubuntu did first and everyone else is copying them. That’s ignorant at best and disingenuous at worst.
I’d love ubuntu, my only real problem with it is it’s owned by a company and not community backed
Try Pop!_OS if you love Ubuntu
Isn’t Pop OS just System76’s spin on Ubuntu?
Technically, yeah. However, Pop isn’t their product, their hardware is.
They do their absolute best to create great software like coreboot and Pop and keep it all truly open source. They also innovate the space with things like COSMIC DE (which imo is phenomenal already, even in its early alpha state).
They only offer software support and help for customers of their hardware but that seems reasonable to me. The community is big and helpful so it makes sense for S76 to refer non-customers there.
I’ve been using Pop as a daily driver for more than 3 years now and a few months ago, I started to think about switching. Until recently, it was stuck on 22.04 with no clear indicator as to when 24.04 would be released. I decide that I was gonna wait for October and if i still felt that way, I was gonna switch. As of today, I haven’t switched and since the first alpha release of COSMIC and the recent alpha release of Pop 24.04, I’ve never even thought about it.
24.04 is fast, stable and works incredibly well with COSMIC. COSMIC is insane for productivity and has fixed almost all UX gripes I’ve ever had with GNOME and KDE. It’s truly amazing and a must-try imo.
Personally I have no issues with a corporate backed distro. My point is that if someone doesn’t want a corporate owned distro, PopOS doesn’t fit the bill.
