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He’s supposed to be calming shit down before Trump takes office, not setting the stage for WW3. Fucking maniac
He is. Let Ukraine win the fight before Putin’s pet takes over. WW averted.
You clearly dont understand history.
Understand history? The closest parallel I can come up with is Germany invading Poland. How’d that turn out again?
It turned out with Germany claiming they could defeat the Russians and getting their ass handed to them when they tried.
One doesn’t simply defeat the largest country in the world.
One doesn’t invade the largest country in the world. Ask Afghanistan and Finland how resisting a Soviet invasion went. all that land mass only helps if the enemy is trying to capture it.
“calm” would be Ukraine no longer being invaded and occupied. Working towards that end is arguably a more effective way to calm shit down.
End of all life on this planet is not an end I’m willing to walk towards
You don’t think we’re headed there anyways from climate change, pollution, deforestation, or any of the other shit that’s already causing ecosystems to collapse and entire species to go extinct?
Climate change causes mass extinction, not total extinction. Nuclear war causes total extinction
I genuinely doubt nuclear war would cause total extinction.
Fortunately we have scientists who are smarter than you who have published studies showing it does
Well I probably won’t survive either and it sure as shit feels like I can’t stop either so I not gonna get too worried about it
Yeah no, putin is the one wanting ww3 not biden
Yeah, Biden need to set the stage for Trump to try to force Ukraine into surrendering its land to a murderous dictator so that the dictator can further his plans to take more land later gah.
I believe NYT makes you login, even on a gift link. Here is a TLDR:
President Biden has authorized Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) to strike Russian and North Korean forces in Russia, a significant shift in U.S. policy. This decision comes in response to Russia’s introduction of North Korean troops into the conflict and their anticipated assault on Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region.
The move reflects growing concerns over Ukraine’s ability to withstand simultaneous assaults while defending territory. The authorization aims to bolster Ukraine’s defense, target high-value military assets, and deter North Korean involvement. However, it has sparked debate among U.S. officials over escalation risks, as Russia might retaliate against the U.S. or its allies.
President-elect Donald Trump, who has vowed to reduce U.S. support for Ukraine, is set to take office in two months, adding urgency to the decision. The Ukrainian strategy may include using captured Russian territory in Kursk as leverage in potential future negotiations. Meanwhile, the risk of Russian countermeasures remains a central concern for Biden’s administration and its allies.
My take: I’ve been waiting on this since the US election. It’s sound strategy of we believe Putin won’t want to escalate with NATO before Trump takes office.
I believe NYT makes you login, even on a gift link
Requires javascript to be enabled. Fuck everything about that.
The other side of this is that once it’s allowed, Trump would have to take it away.
I’m seeing a lot of comments taking this literally or saying why didn’t he do this before –
You all realise this is a very powerful symbolic gesture, right? This is a diplomatic move, not a literal one. The president of the US would never strike at this time in this kind of proxy war, and this is the closest ‘fuck you’ he can issue at Russia (which, again, would not be said aloud).
There’s nothing the US president could do to poke the Russian bear –other than escalate it to a hot war – other than this. This is an outgoing diplomatic move, and that is all.
Ah. Some fireworks before the show is over.
wow. kudos for being the “now that it’s too late to have an impact, i’m going to do the thing i should have done many months ago” president
Long range missiles can have a lot of impact in a short time.
all the more reason this (among other things) should have happened many months ago
something about this seems kind of fucky. the time to do this was years ago. what is brandon’s calculation? that russia won’t do shit because their bitch is taking over? or is he finally convinced, somehow, that russia could never do shit in the first place?
Now give them a thousand tomahawks and the location of every single Putin palace.
Kill those Russians. Target the North Korean troops.
Burn Moscow to the ground
Generally they do it themselves, and then you loose
About time
Too little, too late. Just allowing it in kursk.
At least uk and france gave ukraine the green for using their weaponry in russia.
Biden is such a prick for doing this.
He only did it out of spite to fuck up Trump settlement.
Too late.
Americans chose to abandon Ukraine when they elected Donald Trump and his Republican enablers.
Russia will win, there will be one less democratic nation on the planet, Russia will expand their borders, and Europe/NATO will be threatened.
Thanks conservatives, 3rd party voters, single issue voters, and non-voters. You really thought this one through.
They failed long before the Trumpanzee was voted in. This is just last moment desperation after they not only failed to support Ukraine, but failed to stop the Russian propaganda and bribery machine in the US.
But, Americans aren’t wrong that they also failed long before this. They failed to support the people in favor of corporate interests. They failed to deal stop the Republicans from stacking the courts.
They failed because time and time again, they would rather try to appeal to Republican voters who will NEVER switch sides or change that minds in any significant number, while ignoring the issues that have decimated support with their own base and claiming to have the moral high ground.
Thks isn’t just on the people that didn’t show up to vote, but also the people in government that let it get to this point by continually failing to act.
What’s the issue you have with a non democratic country?
I genuinely think most people (I used to just think most Americans) don’t understand the alternatives.
Democracy has been proven not to work, and those involved in it will tell you that they agree, but there’s no better option. -
Which if you think about it, isn’t really an answer.
It’s like saying: Democracy doesn’t work, mathematically or otherwise. Try something that doesn’t breed corruption. They all do, democracy is just the best corruption.
Which is bullshit. Mixing it up is the best way to stop the corruption.
We need a lot of anarchy in the world right now, otherwise we’re just the fertilizer for power families. Our grandkids are fucked in general, except for the few that get a break.
This comment is a great example of why electing a party that runs on deconstructing the public education system is an awful idea.
We’re gonna start seeing ignorant comments like this way more often going forward.
Buckle up.
When you say “ignorant comments like this” after you referring to yours?
Genuine question.
Democracy doesn’t work. The smaller countries notice it moreso. But the size of the US running a two part t system is insane, and not a true democracy. I wasn’t attacking anything but the platform that they use.
Democracy doesn’t work.
Do you grasp that this is an opinion? Because you keep stating it like it’s fact.
It is fact. Look up arrows impossibility theorem.
If you read into it at all, you didn’t read far enough.
As shown above, the proof of Arrow’s theorem relies crucially on the assumption of ranked voting.
I did read into it. It doesn’t mean democracy is doomed to failure, but it proves that it doesn’t work. Mathematically or otherwise.
Americans didn’t. Only 1/3 of eligible voters voted for the rapist conman.
Those over 18 who don’t vote, don’t count.
They only have 300 km range. They are very nice but still. Pretty sure Ukraine has struck further inland with drones.
Kremlin. Go for Kremlin.
While they won’t be able to reach Moscow with these, even from within Kursk, I am willing to bet the authorization was withheld on intelligence grounds. A lot of things in the war make sense if you look at it from the perspective that arms support can’t be guaranteed.
Instead of letting Ukraine just burn through weapons, the US and allies have waited until they have the full operational capability to deploy the weapons with extreme effectiveness. They’ve had ATACMS for a while, so I suspect they held off deep strikes until the most effective targets had been identified and the likelihood of effective strike was near certain.
There’s obviously no logic whatsoever in allowing Russia to attack Ukraine freely from within its own borders while Ukraine is allowed to only defend inside its own borders. And Russia even thinks Crimea is part of Russia by some fucked up kindergarten bully logic.
No war ever in the history of mankind has followed such logic and neither does this one. If Russia threatens the use of nuclear weapons, then it is doing that without any sensible reason and it might have just as well done that without any war going on anywhere.
Good move by Biden.
